Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Savvas Radevic]

Or file a bug request, find which file has the default settings :-)

On 10/31/09, Theodotos Andreou  wrote:
> You can always hope! :P
>
> O/H Mario Spinthiras έγραψε:
>> Maybe they will add "syntax on" in the .vimrc file so I can actually get
>> some coding done next time =)
>>
>>
>> M.
>
>
>

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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Theodotos Andreou]

You can always hope! :P

O/H Mario Spinthiras έγραψε:
Maybe they will add "syntax on" in the .vimrc file so I can actually get 
some coding done next time =)



M.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Mario Spinthiras]

Maybe they will add "syntax on" in the .vimrc file so I can actually get
some coding done next time =)


M.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Theodotos Andreou]

Mark promised a different theme for 10.04. They just could not allocate 
much resources on the design of a new theme in Karmic. Even though I 
agree with the rest about the human theme being not attractive there are 
people that actually find it pretty and smooth.


On the practical side there are always some pleasant surprises with 
every new release. The login screen shows the list of users on the 
system by default and the language, session and keyboard settings appera 
only when you click on user.


There are also more improvements for console freaks. byubu is included 
by default and provides stylish profiles for screen. grep was a pleasant 
surprise too as it display the matched keyword in red by default.


On the downside I discovered the using the switch user function can 
crash your system!



O/H Mario Spinthiras έγραψε:
Mark Shuttleworth has been bothered enough about themes. He should know 
where priorities stand so far with the desktop edition. I am not blaming 
him nor insulting him, I am just reminding him what hundreds, possibly 
thousands of others have already bothered him with.


With the release of gnome 3 , everything will have to change. This is 
something Mark Shuttleworth, Canonical or anyone else cannot stop from 
happening. Projects such as gnome-shell will revolutionize certain 
aspects of the traditional desktop we know. I am hoping that within this 
revolution, someone will actually grab a palette and fix the brown 
disaster known as the "human" theme.



M.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Mario Spinthiras]

Mark Shuttleworth has been bothered enough about themes. He should know
where priorities stand so far with the desktop edition. I am not blaming him
nor insulting him, I am just reminding him what hundreds, possibly thousands
of others have already bothered him with.

With the release of gnome 3 , everything will have to change. This is
something Mark Shuttleworth, Canonical or anyone else cannot stop from
happening. Projects such as gnome-shell will revolutionize certain aspects
of the traditional desktop we know. I am hoping that within this revolution,
someone will actually grab a palette and fix the brown disaster known as the
"human" theme.


M.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Savvas Radevic]

I think it's stuck with that look because they aimed for the new
splash screen software... Or because they wanted newbies to have a
"stable" picture of ubuntu as an operating system. Either way, we just
have to wait and see the next stable version, 10.04!
Btw, there is a package with community themes, I forgot the name
unfortunately (community-themes maybe? apt search it!). :-)

On 10/29/09, Thanos Lefteris  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Mario Spinthiras
>  wrote:
>> Ok. This is about as far as I go with Ubuntu (desktop). The server is
>> progressing in exactly the right direction. But for the love of God! ,
>> what
>> is going on with the visuals? It has been "brown" for as long as I
>> remember,
>> and now it is moving toward yellow. That is more than enough reason to
>> know
>> it will look horrible on my macbook screen.
>>
>> Take into consideration that lots of people in the blogosphere have been
>> moaning about this for a long time and Canonical still hasn't pulled
>> through
>> with this. The fact that Ubuntu looks appalling in terms of theming is not
>> a
>> shallow statement. After all, I'm not the only Linux geek with an opinion
>> like this.
>>
>> In any case, something has to be done, urgently, before people decide to
>> start using Amigas again =)
>
> I think they choose an ugly default theme, so that the users will
> absolutely have to change to another one. And there are some nice ones
> in this release, including a rotating wallpaper with photos from space
> :)
>
> Now the brown window titles and the bad looking gradients in gdm are
> another story...
>
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> http://thanos.lefteris.info
>
>

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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Thanos Lefteris]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Mario Spinthiras
 wrote:
> Ok. This is about as far as I go with Ubuntu (desktop). The server is
> progressing in exactly the right direction. But for the love of God! , what
> is going on with the visuals? It has been "brown" for as long as I remember,
> and now it is moving toward yellow. That is more than enough reason to know
> it will look horrible on my macbook screen.
>
> Take into consideration that lots of people in the blogosphere have been
> moaning about this for a long time and Canonical still hasn't pulled through
> with this. The fact that Ubuntu looks appalling in terms of theming is not a
> shallow statement. After all, I'm not the only Linux geek with an opinion
> like this.
>
> In any case, something has to be done, urgently, before people decide to
> start using Amigas again =)

I think they choose an ugly default theme, so that the users will
absolutely have to change to another one. And there are some nice ones
in this release, including a rotating wallpaper with photos from space
:)

Now the brown window titles and the bad looking gradients in gdm are
another story...

-- 
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http://thanos.lefteris.info

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Mario Spinthiras]

Greetings from a dark Cisco lab with lots of wires in a university in London
=) . /me waves back.



On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Brendan Jocson  wrote:

> Warex is always one to complain :) /me waves!
>
> Mario Spinthiras wrote:
>
>> Ok. This is about as far as I go with Ubuntu (desktop). The server is
>> progressing in exactly the right direction. But for the love of God! , what
>> is going on with the visuals? It has been "brown" for as long as I remember,
>> and now it is moving toward yellow. That is more than enough reason to know
>> it will look horrible on my macbook screen.
>>
>> Take into consideration that lots of people in the blogosphere have been
>> moaning about this for a long time and Canonical still hasn't pulled through
>> with this. The fact that Ubuntu looks appalling in terms of theming is not a
>> shallow statement. After all, I'm not the only Linux geek with an opinion
>> like this.
>>
>> In any case, something has to be done, urgently, before people decide to
>> start using Amigas again =)
>>
>>
>> Mario.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Savvas Radevic > vice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>Ubuntu karmic 9.10 is officially out!
>>Give it a spin and let us know if everything works as expected. The
>>live cd environment or a virtual machine is perfect for testing. :-)
>>P.S. Sorry for the extra short announcement, the official announcement
>>is attached.
>>
>>-- Forwarded message --
>>From: Ubuntu Announcements >>
>>Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:25:46 -0700
>>Subject: Ubuntu 9.10 released
>>To: ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>>
>>The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop and Server
>>editions, Ubuntu 9.10 Server for Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) and
>>Amazon's
>>EC2, and Ubuntu Netbook Remix, continuing Ubuntu's tradition of
>>integrating
>>the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality,
>>easy-to-use Linux distribution.
>>
>>Read more about the features of Ubuntu 9.10 in the following press
>>releases:
>>
>> Desktop editionhttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910
>> Server edition
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910-server-edition
>>
>>Ubuntu 9.10 will be supported for 18 months on both desktops and
>>servers.
>>Users requiring a longer support lifetime on the server may choose to
>>continue using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, with security support until 2013,
>>rather
>>than upgrading to 9.10.
>>
>>Thanks to the efforts of the global translation community, Ubuntu is
>>available in 25 languages.  For a list of supported languages and
>>detailed
>>translation statistics for these and other languages, see:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/ReleaseLanguages/9.10
>>
>>Ubuntu 9.10 includes the first official release of Ubuntu Server
>>images for
>>UEC and for Amazon's EC2, giving you everything you need for rapid
>>deployment of Ubuntu instances in a cloud computing environment.
>>UEC images,
>>and information on running Ubuntu 9.10 on EC2, are available at:
>>
>> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/release
>>
>>Ubuntu 9.10 is also the basis for new 9.10 releases of Kubuntu,
>>Xubuntu,
>>Edubuntu, UbuntuStudio, and Mythbuntu:
>>
>>   Kubuntu  http://kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
>>   Xubuntu  http://xubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
>>  Edubuntu  http://edubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
>> Mythbuntu  http://mythbuntu.org/9.10/release
>> Ubuntu Studio
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/9.10release_notes
>>
>>To Get Ubuntu 9.10
>>--
>>
>>To download Ubuntu 9.10, or obtain CDs, visit:
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
>>
>>Users of Ubuntu 9.04 will be offered an automatic upgrade to 9.10 via
>>Update Manager.  For further information about upgrading, see:
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
>>
>>As always, upgrades to the latest version of Ubuntu are entirely
>>free of
>>charge.
>>
>>We recommend that all users read the release notes, which document
>>caveats and workarounds for known issues.  They are available at:
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
>>
>>Find out what's new in this release with a graphical overview:
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
>>
>>If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but
>>aren't sure, try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel, on the Ubuntu
>>Users
>>mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums:
>>
>> #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net 
>>
>> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
>> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
>>
>>Ubuntu 9.10 for ARM architectures
>>-

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Brendan Jocson]

Warex is always one to complain :) /me waves!

Mario Spinthiras wrote:
Ok. This is about as far as I go with Ubuntu (desktop). The server is 
progressing in exactly the right direction. But for the love of God! , 
what is going on with the visuals? It has been "brown" for as long as 
I remember, and now it is moving toward yellow. That is more than 
enough reason to know it will look horrible on my macbook screen.


Take into consideration that lots of people in the blogosphere have 
been moaning about this for a long time and Canonical still hasn't 
pulled through with this. The fact that Ubuntu looks appalling in 
terms of theming is not a shallow statement. After all, I'm not the 
only Linux geek with an opinion like this.


In any case, something has to be done, urgently, before people decide 
to start using Amigas again =)



Mario.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Savvas Radevic > wrote:


Ubuntu karmic 9.10 is officially out!
Give it a spin and let us know if everything works as expected. The
live cd environment or a virtual machine is perfect for testing. :-)
P.S. Sorry for the extra short announcement, the official announcement
is attached.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Ubuntu Announcements mailto:nore...@ubuntu.com>>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:25:46 -0700
Subject: Ubuntu 9.10 released
To: ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com


The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop and Server
editions, Ubuntu 9.10 Server for Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) and
Amazon's
EC2, and Ubuntu Netbook Remix, continuing Ubuntu's tradition of
integrating
the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality,
easy-to-use Linux distribution.

Read more about the features of Ubuntu 9.10 in the following press
releases:

 Desktop editionhttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910
 Server edition
http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910-server-edition


Ubuntu 9.10 will be supported for 18 months on both desktops and
servers.
Users requiring a longer support lifetime on the server may choose to
continue using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, with security support until 2013,
rather
than upgrading to 9.10.

Thanks to the efforts of the global translation community, Ubuntu is
available in 25 languages.  For a list of supported languages and
detailed
translation statistics for these and other languages, see:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/ReleaseLanguages/9.10

Ubuntu 9.10 includes the first official release of Ubuntu Server
images for
UEC and for Amazon's EC2, giving you everything you need for rapid
deployment of Ubuntu instances in a cloud computing environment.
UEC images,
and information on running Ubuntu 9.10 on EC2, are available at:

 http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/release

Ubuntu 9.10 is also the basis for new 9.10 releases of Kubuntu,
Xubuntu,
Edubuntu, UbuntuStudio, and Mythbuntu:

   Kubuntu  http://kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
   Xubuntu  http://xubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
  Edubuntu  http://edubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
 Mythbuntu  http://mythbuntu.org/9.10/release
 Ubuntu Studio
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/9.10release_notes


To Get Ubuntu 9.10
--

To download Ubuntu 9.10, or obtain CDs, visit:

 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu

Users of Ubuntu 9.04 will be offered an automatic upgrade to 9.10 via
Update Manager.  For further information about upgrading, see:

 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading

As always, upgrades to the latest version of Ubuntu are entirely
free of
charge.

We recommend that all users read the release notes, which document
caveats and workarounds for known issues.  They are available at:

 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910

Find out what's new in this release with a graphical overview:

 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview

If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but
aren't sure, try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel, on the Ubuntu
Users
mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums:

 #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net 
 http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

Ubuntu 9.10 for ARM architectures
-

Ubuntu 9.10 is available for the ARM architecture.  Users should only
download these images if they have access to ARM chipsets or
devices, as
they will not run on Intel-based machines.

Install instructions and images can be found here:

 http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/arm

Helping Shape Ubuntu


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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 released

[Mario Spinthiras]

Ok. This is about as far as I go with Ubuntu (desktop). The server is
progressing in exactly the right direction. But for the love of God! , what
is going on with the visuals? It has been "brown" for as long as I remember,
and now it is moving toward yellow. That is more than enough reason to know
it will look horrible on my macbook screen.

Take into consideration that lots of people in the blogosphere have been
moaning about this for a long time and Canonical still hasn't pulled through
with this. The fact that Ubuntu looks appalling in terms of theming is not a
shallow statement. After all, I'm not the only Linux geek with an opinion
like this.

In any case, something has to be done, urgently, before people decide to
start using Amigas again =)


Mario.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Savvas Radevic  wrote:

> Ubuntu karmic 9.10 is officially out!
> Give it a spin and let us know if everything works as expected. The
> live cd environment or a virtual machine is perfect for testing. :-)
> P.S. Sorry for the extra short announcement, the official announcement
> is attached.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ubuntu Announcements 
> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:25:46 -0700
> Subject: Ubuntu 9.10 released
> To: ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com
>
> The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop and Server
> editions, Ubuntu 9.10 Server for Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) and Amazon's
> EC2, and Ubuntu Netbook Remix, continuing Ubuntu's tradition of integrating
> the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality,
> easy-to-use Linux distribution.
>
> Read more about the features of Ubuntu 9.10 in the following press
> releases:
>
>  Desktop editionhttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910
>  Server edition http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910-server-edition
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 will be supported for 18 months on both desktops and servers.
> Users requiring a longer support lifetime on the server may choose to
> continue using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, with security support until 2013, rather
> than upgrading to 9.10.
>
> Thanks to the efforts of the global translation community, Ubuntu is
> available in 25 languages.  For a list of supported languages and detailed
> translation statistics for these and other languages, see:
>
>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/ReleaseLanguages/9.10
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 includes the first official release of Ubuntu Server images for
> UEC and for Amazon's EC2, giving you everything you need for rapid
> deployment of Ubuntu instances in a cloud computing environment. UEC
> images,
> and information on running Ubuntu 9.10 on EC2, are available at:
>
>  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/release
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 is also the basis for new 9.10 releases of Kubuntu, Xubuntu,
> Edubuntu, UbuntuStudio, and Mythbuntu:
>
>Kubuntu  http://kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
>Xubuntu  http://xubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
>   Edubuntu  http://edubuntu.org/news/9.10-release
>  Mythbuntu  http://mythbuntu.org/9.10/release
>  Ubuntu Studio  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/9.10release_notes
>
> To Get Ubuntu 9.10
> --
>
> To download Ubuntu 9.10, or obtain CDs, visit:
>
>  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
>
> Users of Ubuntu 9.04 will be offered an automatic upgrade to 9.10 via
> Update Manager.  For further information about upgrading, see:
>
>  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
>
> As always, upgrades to the latest version of Ubuntu are entirely free of
> charge.
>
> We recommend that all users read the release notes, which document
> caveats and workarounds for known issues.  They are available at:
>
>  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
>
> Find out what's new in this release with a graphical overview:
>
>  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
>
> If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but
> aren't sure, try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel, on the Ubuntu Users
> mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums:
>
>  #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
>  http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 for ARM architectures
> -
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 is available for the ARM architecture.  Users should only
> download these images if they have access to ARM chipsets or devices, as
> they will not run on Intel-based machines.
>
> Install instructions and images can be found here:
>
>  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/arm
>
> Helping Shape Ubuntu
> 
>
> If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways
> you can participate at:
>
>  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/
>
> About Ubuntu
> 
>
> Ubuntu is a full-featured Linux distribution for desktops, laptops,
> netbooks and servers, with a fast and easy install and regular releases.  A
> tightly-integrated selection of excellent applications is