example-content - is it really a solution?

2006-02-22 Thread Armand CORBEAUX
This is at least useful on a Live CD.When I demonstrate Ubuntu with a live CD, I've nothing to do and I mustalways say : If you had a picture, you could edit it with the gimp, there.If you had a word document, you could...
Some videos, sounds and pictures samples could turn a boring demonstrationinto something very cool.People will not remember that Ubuntu is easier or better. They will say : Ilike your stuff. The picture of the bird was so cuuute !
It's perhaps useful for an individual demonstration, even if the first question will be and my Internet? (even if the picture of the bird was cute).In my spirit the idea is not to show in practice, but to explain what ubuntu can do (what implies a will of the user).
Anyway in any domain (professionnal or personnal) where ubuntu can be shown, the principal question from users is:can I do the same thing as actually?(and, hop, I can then increment my  Universal Ubuntu Conversion Counter)
For me there are no ideas of conversion of a user: Ubuntu succeeded in satisfying his needs or not.
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Re: Selecting music for example-content

2006-02-22 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma

Hi Sandis,

Wow, again thanks for the thorough review. I'll look and listen at your 
recommendations from remixcommons.


Sandis Neilands wrote:

We shouldn't base or decisions upon popularity of the music.If we do
so we could end up shipping Beethoven-only CD. I mean I would rather
be surprised by a cool tune I have never heard before than listen Ode
to joy or Moonlight sonata yet another time.
  
Yes I agree, though I think if we pick something less known it should be 
fairly melodic so that it will only require one or two listens to like it.

I think it sounds too midi'sh and I'm afraid it would sound even more
midi'sh on cheap headphones/laptop speakers.
  
After hearing more stuff I agree with that. I'm already more impressed 
with this piece: http://www.kahvi.org/v04.php It has a more interesting 
progression and better quality samples IMO. Less tinny and all round 
artistically better IMO. Unfortunately the license is unclear. I want to 
check out more stuff by the artist at: 
http://www.lackluster.org/index2.php and then email him to see if we can 
arrange something. (the clip above is a video so the file is quite 
large, but presumably the audio file is available somewhere.)


A lot of music over there. What are the deadlines for you? I'm asking
because it will take time to get even a glimpse of whats inside.
  
Yes, there is a lot. The audio quality seems good, though the musical 
quality is often almost-good, I'm afraid. We could well find some pearls 
there though.


On the deadlines: I would like to find something acceptable by the end 
of this month so we don't have to stress too much about it. However, a 
better piece can always come in and replace it later on. In that sense 
we can get quite close to the release date which is mid-April. Closer to 
the deadline disc space constraints will also become firmer. We may need 
to have a few options of varying size.


- Henrik


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When will we think about tomorrow, and not continue to take a look on the past?

2006-02-22 Thread Armand CORBEAUX
With time, things evolve. Sometimes we can have the feeling that things don't evolve enough quickly.

This is more a think after taking a general look on GUI (or whatever you wish to call it).

Why things don't evolve? Why do we hear always, as 5 years ago, the same debates?
Why can we see today what can be assimilate as regressions?

That is not a criticism, but GNOME becomes complicated...

I take the example of the background: Why wasn't it thought for the nuts?
Imagine a simple panel: I drag the background that I want in the
panel, it applies immediatly. I drag out it, it disappears from
panel (the 'remove button becomes deprecated).
When you want to put a painting at a nail, you pose it. When you
want to remove it, you take it down. Why not think simply as in the
daily life?

Damn...do we search simplicity or to purpose a options factory?

I think there's not enough time now to suggest improvements for Ubuntu 6.04...
No no no..I can let it passed away:

Who use daily hibernate and suspend?
There's a stuff I really don't understand in the logout and shutdown in
Dapper: why 2 entries for approximatively the same options? Why
includes suspend and hibernate in logout panel? Is it really an
improvement or just to show that Ubuntu is able to hibernate and
suspend?
Gnome-power-manager (which is installed by default) puropose also the hibernate and suspend options, and in a more usable way.

One more time, sorry if some people feels aggressed, but it's not a
criticism but a information feedback of an observation of the practices
of use of the users.

Armand
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Re: When will we think about tomorrow, and not continue to take a look on the past?

2006-02-22 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello Armand,

Am Mittwoch, den 22.02.2006, 22:03 +0100 schrieb Armand CORBEAUX:
 With time, things evolve. Sometimes we can have the feeling that
 things don't evolve enough quickly.

I don't want to be rude, maybe your mail just came with a very bad
timing. 

The mailing lists are full at the moment, it takes too much time to read
through them all. We are in a very hard timing for the development of
the distribution, Feature Freeze is tomorrow and urgent decisions have
to be made.

Please let's try all to (and I don't say that to you alone):

  * be very focused about problems
  * propose solutions
  * don't discuss for discussion's sake
  * maybe try to move the forming of an idea to a wiki page
  * make every creative effort you can to keep the noise / fact
ratio at a reasonable level.
  * use the bug tracker for bugs
  * stop ranting


Sorry Armand, if I picked your mail for this, but the situation
justified it.

Have a nice day,
 Daniel





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