Desktop Team Meeting, 2008-04-03

2008-04-03 Thread Scott James Remnant
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For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting.

== Present ==

 * Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) - chair
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
 * Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)
 * Martin Pitt (pitti)
 * Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
 * Michael Vogt (mvo)
 * Mirco Müller (MacSlow)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
 * Ted Gould (tedg)

 * Pedro Villavicencio Garrido (pedro_)
 * Matt Zimmerman (mdz)

== Agenda ==

 * Outstanding actions from last meeting
 * (pitti) libgphoto gvfs: keep and fix, or ditch?
 * (seb128) gvfs libarchive backend, use in hardy?
 * (pitti) Coordination of fixing /etc diff for upgrades (Michael
   started to provide diffs now, thanks a lot!)
 * (pitti) next week I'll be at the LinuxFoundation collaboration summit
   in Austin; anything I should do/ask/tell/promote there?
 * Final call for UDS Agenda topics
 * [http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/
Sponsoring Overview update]
 *
[http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/qa-hardy-list-archive/sort-by-package/desktop-buglist.html
 Desktop bug list]
 * Review activity reports
 * Any other business

== Outstanding actions from last meeting ==

 * Sebastien to initiate a discussion about shares-admin ->
nautilus-share upgrade migration with slangasek on u-devel@
   ''Discussion was fruitful, while a migration isn't possible slangasek
was happy with documenting that in the release notes given that the
change to nautilus-share will be sufficiently more maintainable''

 * Sebastien to prepare theme change back to ubuntulooks
   ''Done by kwwii and mvo''

 * Sebastien to rename the tracker menu item
   ''Deferred most changes to next release, except for transmission
which pitti raised as really needing changing''

 * Ken to look into updating important bits of example-contents for
Hardy, primarily release name
   ''Still outstanding''

== Actions from this meeting ==

 * Ken to look into updating important bits of example-contents for
Hardy, primarily release name
 * pitti to disable gvfs libgphoto backend
 * seb128 to enable gvfs libarchive backend
 * mvo and pitti to review the /etc diff and file bugs where
appropriate.

== gvfs libgphoto backend ==

gvfs's libgphoto backend allows you to access non-storage based cameras
as if they were a mounted storage device; gvfs-based applications can
browse the photos on them as if they were files.

Unfortunately it's somewhat buggy at the moment, pitti asked whether we
should keep it and try and fix the bugs, or whether we should disable it
for now and review in intrepid.

This was discussed pre-meeting with seb128 and the conclusion was to
disable it for now and use f-spot-import until it's ready.

== gvfs libarchive backend ==

gvfs's libarchive backend allows you to access archives (e.g. zip) as if
they were folders.  It's installed but not yet activated, and when
actived only provides a "Mount Archive" option in the context menu for
the icon.  seb128 asked whether we should activate it.  Since it's not
directly exposed, it would be relatively harmless.

No objections were raised.

== /etc diff for upgrades ==

http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/kvm/profile/lts-ubuntu/etc.diff
 contains a 5.2 MB diff of changes between dapper and hardy, and a fresh hardy 
install.

This needs review and co-ordination of fixes.

== Activity reports ==

=== Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) ===

Done:
 * KDE 4.0.3 packaged and uploaded
 * Testing upgrades
 * Discussing Konversation artwork theme and poking for a new one that
everyone agrees on
 * Archive Admin 1/2 day (Cleared New Queue, ubuntu-archive requests)
 * Tidy up system-config-printer-kde for release and fix share printer
funtion in kdeprint
 * Set nicer qtcurve settings
 * Fill up seeds with language packs for CDs
 * Add a couple of missing packages to kde 4 seeds
 * Briefly review the KDE chapter for the Ubuntu book

Next week:
 * Lots of bugfixes.  Ubiquity seems to have stopped launching on the
live CDs.  restricted-manager needs some testing.

1 milestoned bug 209220, which isn't going to get fixed for hardy, not
yet sure how to remove the milestone.

=== Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) ===

 * final (hope!) gdm changes
 * packaging: human-icon-theme, ubuntu-artwork, ubuntulooks,
ubuntu-gdm-theme, human-theme; (adding icons, tweaking artwork, moving
back to ubuntulooks with new gtkrc w/ GUI editable colors, fixing bugs
in h-i-t, u-gdm-theme, and ubuntulooks, etc.)
 * helped ubuntustudio make the same changes to icon theme
 * dealing with 600+ spam emails to ubuntu-art within a couple of hours
 * planning and announcing next art team meeting

=== Martin Pitt (pitti) ===

Unfixed milestoned bugs (only on hardy final):
 * 207151 (Reenable PolicyKit ptrace protection before Hardy's release):
needs to happen close to release
 * 210348 (apport-cli test with no package): new from this week, will do
soon; no technical problem at all, more a question of whether we want it
 * 209416 (fsck not repairing corruption on boot): 

[Bug 202174] Re: Please update to version 2.6

2008-04-03 Thread Dylan McCall
Just tossing in my 2 cents here:

2.6.0 has a number of visible changes, but the older version is unlikely
to have a significant ammount of support going into the future. This
means that, if any errors are observed with the 2.4.x series (eg: The
outstanding and very ugly bugs mentioned), it could become necessary for
Hardy to upgrade to 2.6 anyway or spend an unnecessary ammount of time
fiddling with patches. Changing major versions of included software
within one release is, of course, not really Ubuntu's way of doing
things. Thus, in the interest of having AbiWord kept reasonably well
supported, it would be sane to get the 2.6.x upgrade dealt with for
Hardy from the start.

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Please update to version 2.6
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/202174
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