Re: Change the default screensaver from black to ubuntu logo
This is very true, but someone needs to go around writing patches for at least all applications that are installed by default that need to manually autosuspend inhibit. This has been done on Rythmbox already, but other apps which really need patches are: Synaptic, Nautilus (during copy/move), Nautilus-burner, Brasero (i think) and probably some other basic ones (i.e. maybe whatever Add/Remove Applications uses). I've found autosuspend to be pretty useless for my needs without at least these apps fixed, to the point where I've been looking into alternatives like sleepd. I wouldn't mind sitting down and trying to submit the patches to the relevant projects myself, they're prolly at the right level for a beginner, but I really don't have the time at this point, maybe next year some time. Alex On 06/08/2008, Ted Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 11:35 +0100, Odysseus Flappington wrote: If the inhibit sleep on CPU load was ever implemented, it never worked. While in theory this sounds nice, it is nearly impossible to implement in practice. The reality is that it's difficult to determine which things are important to block suspend based on CPU load alone. How important is the animation on your desktop? Based on CPU load? What is implemented is there is a DBUS interface that applications can call which inhibits suspend. So if the application is doing something that it knows suspend will effect negatively (playing a full screen DVD) it can block that. This interface has issues too, but it does make more sense as applications are more likely to know which actions should be blocking. --Ted -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Change the default screensaver from black to ubuntu logo
hi, On Mi, 2008-08-06 at 16:45 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: I'm not quite sure how to measure (removing all the variables like HD access and such) but I'd have to say that I'm a huge skeptic of the gains here. powertop might help ;) ciao oli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Change the default screensaver from black to ubuntu logo
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:28 +0100, Odysseus Flappington wrote: I wouldn't mind sitting down and trying to submit the patches to the relevant projects myself, they're prolly at the right level for a beginner, but I really don't have the time at this point, maybe next year some time. While I understand having too much to do, if you have a little bit of time now one thing that would be useful is to start documenting and filing bugs on the apps that don't support inhibit but should. This way there can be some discussion on the individual cases, but also we can have a way to determine when the task is done. I think making an umbrella bug Suspend happens when I'm doing stuff that is dependent on all of them would help. --Ted -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Desktop team meeting, 2008-08-07
For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting. == Present == * Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) - chair * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) * Martin Pitt (pitti) * Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) * Michael Vogt (mvo) * Mirco Müller (MacSlow) * Sebastien Bacher (seb128) * Ted Gould (tedg) * Pedro Villavicencio Garrido (pedro_) == Apologies == * Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) - on Leave == Agenda == * Welcome mpt * Outstanding actions from last meeting * libzip MIR (Riddell) * Team structure, member shuffling (pitti) * Activity report length (mvo) * Roadmap update * Empathy vs Pidgin * New gnome-session * [[http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/|Sponsoring Overview update]] * Review activity reports * Any other business == Outstanding actions from last meeting == * MacSlow to clarify gdm goals for face browser for Intrepid/Intrepid+1. Requirements mailed out, feature freeze unlikely to be met. * mpt to follow up with upstream about UI improvements in new user admin tool: no response so far, he will mail again Work in background for next release. == Actions from this meeting == * Riddell to follow up on MIR bug for libzip to remind pitti. == libzip MIR == The MIR for libzip has been waiting for a security review for some time now, due to other higher priority security issues. It is on the security team's TODO list, pitti suggested we promote it and file a security bug for the review. == Team structure, member shuffling == pitti asked about the status of the team structure changes, and who is likely to change and what effects it will have. I summarised the changes. == Activity report length == mvo wondered whether his activity reports were too long; suggestions were to keep the spec progress but drop some of the fine detail about every bug. Definite consensus was to omit any chores or other work that is done every week. == Roadmap update == Everybody was asked to update their specs or whiteboards with status for feature freeze over the next day. == Empathy vs. Pidgin == Since GNOME have accepted empathy for inclusion as a standard module, seb128 asked whether we should consider a switch as well? Jabber and iChat support are better, and other protocols can use libpurple to gain the same support as pidgin. mpt will perform a usability comparison, and seb128 will post instructions to ubuntu-devel calling for testing. == New gnome-session == The new gnome-session isn't working out as well as hoped, it may be necessary to revert to 2.20. One particular concern is the logout dialog, which is rather different now and the old patch does not apply. It may be that the new FUSA applet provides these? Proposed to discuss on the mailing list. == Activity reports == === Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) === done: * enabled compositing in KDE 4, using same blacklist as compiz * enabled apport in KDE 4 * implement laptop keys for KDE 4 in kmix and guidance-power-manager * Package Qt 4.4.1 * discuss qbzr packaging with the guy who had package in PPA, suggest some fixes and upload to ubuntu * testing new Adept * archive administration 1/2 day * couple of days working on system-config-printer-kde, got it into a state where it should be useful, plenty more to do blocked: * compiz patch to split out wrapper script needs review * plasmoid-quickaccess MIR * openbabel MIR * libzip MIR (coming on for two months this one, what do I have to do?) todo: * at Akademy next week no milestoned bugs === Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) === On leave. === Martin Pitt (pitti) === Assigned Intrepid specs: * intrepid-device-permissions: Fixed libpam-ck-connector to work by default in PAM common-session; now it needs to be auto-added to PAM config on installation; slangasek says I should use pam-config-framework for that, which isn't ready yet; thus BLOCKED * gdm-guest-account: More or less implemented now, spec has release note and test case sections now; just needs some bug fixing now * jockey-printer-driver-support: backend is fully capable of searching for drivers on openprinting.org; needs some remaining frontend work now; didn't get to much work on this spec this week; big problem is that upstream probably won't add the system-config-printer changes in time for intrepid, so the really really nice integration might slip to the next release :( (it's still useful to search/install drivers from the jockey UI) Currently open milestoned bugs: * got them all fixed this week Other non-chores work done: * got the apport retracers back into working order again * apport enabled by default again now * apport now catches kernel crash dumps and turns them into reports * did a few updated merges === Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) === * Ubuntu team induction stuff. * Tried to install Intrepid alpha 3. Reported related bugs. * Discussions with involved parties about package maintainedness presentation. * Nearly completed design for package maintainedness
Re: Change the default screensaver from black to ubuntu logo
While I understand having too much to do, if you have a little bit of time now one thing that would be useful is to start documenting and filing bugs on the apps that don't support inhibit but should. No idea if this is useful for anyone else, but there's a little app I wrote to keep the screensaver inhibited while watching video podcasts on miro (which is one of those above candidates). The app is sitting in the system tray and you can inhibit and uninhibit gnome-screensaver with one click. (You can also start the screensaver right away or lock the screen from the context menu, but I think that's no big deal since you can do that from the logout menu, too) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5452013#post5452013 So maybe this could be promoted to be used until all apps are fixed, and even packaged. At least I hope this can help other people, too... I just don't know where to make it known. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Change the default screensaver from black to ubuntu logo
Olá Oliver e a todos. On Thursday 07 August 2008 11:35:30 Oliver Grawert wrote: On Do, 2008-08-07 at 11:15 +0100, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 10:45:20 Oliver Grawert wrote: powertop might help ;) Powertop is a mess. powertop is a tool from intel which is supposed to find out the power consuming bits of a system at runtime to adjust and tune these (i.e. the right tool to help ted with his above question to identify and measure the power hogs in a *running* system), i definately wouldnt use it during suspend/resume ... its not to run it during suspend let me try again: i meant usint it to reduce power consumption... some of it advices mess my system -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
