updated spec about out-of-the-box special key code support

2008-10-02 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello,

I updated the spec I drafted. Originally I hadn't all the technical
workings clear but thanks to your comments I think the spec should be
doable now:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/IRRemoteControlSupport


It probably isn't perfect yet. I'm just a usability designer so I don't
know exactly the inner workings of Xorg's key sym handling, but I did
actually write a remote control driver, so I know something about Linux
key codes. 

Howerver the thing I know best is what the user experience should be
like. I hope at least that part is clear enough in the spec. I want to
get rid of Lirc completely and just do everything with good defaults
programmed in linux HID drivers.

Thanks for your time!

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Desktop Team Meeting, 2008-10-02

2008-10-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting.

== Present ==

 * Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) - chair
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
 * Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)
 * Martin Pitt (pitti)
 * Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
 * Michael Vogt (mvo)
 * Mirco Müller (MacSlow)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
 * Ted Gould (tedg)

 * Pedro Villavicencio Garrido (pedro_)

== Agenda ==

 * Outstanding actions from last meeting
 * Farewells
 * Handling the logout applet/old fusa -> new fusa transition on
upgrades
 * [[http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/|Sponsoring Overview
update]]
 * Release Status
  * Keybuk:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/libtool/+bug/258491|Bug 
#258491: link_all_deplibs=no patch no longer working well]] ''no time to review 
yet''
  * Riddell:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kdebase/+bug/241916|Bug 
#241916: Kde help index creation fails due to dash incompatability]] ''still to 
look at''
  * kwwii:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/gtk2-engines-murrine/+bug/266954|Bug
 #266954: window manager theme -Human Murrine- is not installed]] ''no update?''
  * pitti:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/hal/+bug/275825|Bug
#275825: After an upgrade to intrepid, HAL prefers old fdi-cache to new
FDI files]] ''no update?''
  * pitti:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/usplash/+bug/264696|Bug 
#264696: usplash is not started on shutdown/reboot]] ''new''
  * pitti:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/consolekit/+bug/263245|Bug 
#263245: console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in fclose()]] ''Cannot 
reproduce, need some time to intensely stare at the code''
  * pitti:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/coreutils/+bug/262811|Bug 
#262811: mv for symlinks on dapper is not atomic]] ''new bug from this week; 
cursory review showed some weirdness in the supplied patch, need more time to 
look into this''
  * pitti:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/logrotate/+bug/256891|Bug 
#256891: missingok does not work]] ''needs some deep investigation, bug 
accepted in Debian, but "wontfix" for etch; pretty much a design issue AFAICS, 
for intrepid we'll at most get a workaround''
  * pitti:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/jockey/+bug/263097|
Bug #263097: wl vs. b43 are not properly configured]] ''fixes prepared
for hardy and intrepid; hardy waiting for Steve's SRU approval, intrepid
waiting for beta freeze lift''
  * mvo:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/synaptic/+bug/19021|Bug 
#19021: Should run dpkg --configure -a automatically]] ''not for intrepid?''
  * mvo:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/compiz/+bug/275744|
Bug #274744: Intrepid: Compiz settings selector blanks although the
setting selected still functions]] ''new''
  * mvo:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/apt/+bug/276349|Bug
#276349: intrepid alternate CD make apt print out a warning]] ''new''
  * ted, seb218:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/274146|Bug
 #274146: Has not yet replaced the existing log out applet]] ''meeting agenda 
item''
  * ted:
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/261084|Bug
 #261084: Suspends again right after resume]] ''new''
 * Review activity reports
 * Any other business
  * package updates
  * gnome-themes
  * nautilus-cd-burner

== Outstanding actions from last meeting ==

 * pitti to discuss gnome-keyring confirmation dialog behaviour in
upstream bug
  ''done''
 * mvo to decide on FOSScamp attendance
  ''coming''
 * kwwii to decide on FOSScamp attendance
  ''not coming''
 * seb128 to add GNOME people to sponsorship list
  ''done''

== Actions from this meeting ==

 * seb128 to propose three options for
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/274146|Bug
 #274146]]

== Farewells ==

ted and MacSlow are leaving the team for the new desktop experience
team, but will likely still hang out in meetings.

mvo will be moving to the foundations team in a few weeks.

== Handling the logout applet/old fusa -> new fusa transition on
upgrades ==

This is being discussed in
[[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/274146|Bug
 #274146]].  We agreed to continue the discussion there, seb128 will propose 
three solutions.

== package updates ==

Discussion about whether or not to update Ekiga and GIMP took place,
seb128 was s strong proponent of updating both and GIMP is at least
already on his list.

== gnome-themes ==

kwwii began a discussion about the gnome-themes package, which has been
suggested to be split into two pieces; one containing "good" themes and
the other "not so good" themes.

seb128 strongly suggests retaining the gnome-themes package, separating
out the others into a seperate package; or having gnome-themes as a
dummy package d