Re: Solang or Shotwell vs. F-Spot for Lucid

2009-12-12 Thread Otto Kekäläinen

 Solang, Shotwell, and F-Spot are all fine image managers/organizers,
 but the current plan is to work on F-Spot to get it to meet the
 following needs: 
   * Quickly viewing images by folder [currently handled by EOG]
   * Solang and F-Spot both have view-modes but still
 require importing the image. Shotwell might not. 
   * Editing images without importing (Shotwell does this)
   * Rotating [currently handled by EOG]
   * Red-eye removal [currently handled by GIMP]
   * Cropping [currently handled by GIMP]
   * optional: Annotating (like making lolcat) [currently
 handled by GIMP]
   * optional: Painting on it [currently handled by GIMP]

Resizing and saving the file in another file format are also common
in-folder image manipulation tasks.

Personally I prefer Gthumb over EOG or F-Spots view-mode, since it is
fast, easy to use and has enough features. If I had the power, I'd
replace EOG with Gthumb and make Gthumb the default program associated
to all image file types. Current situation sucks. Even Windows XP's
in-folder image manipulation is better..

Shotwell looks nice, but I'm a bit sceptic about new software and how
mature they are.




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Google Chromium In Lucid

2009-12-12 Thread John Baer
I've been a loyal Firefox user for many years and until I tested the new
Google Chrome browser everything paled in comparison.

IMO Ubuntu should adopt Chrome as the default browser.

The general adoption of Chrome will be quick as Google has a vested interest
in it's success. I blogged on this topic at
projBloghttp://www.projblog.com/?page_id=206 but
here are the high points.

   - Google is big and Google is pro open source. Supporting this effort
   provides value to Ubuntu
   - Chrome runs well on Ubuntu
   - Chrome will be well supported

This time next year it is very likely Google will be well established in the
Net Book Cloud Computing market which IMO will grow Ubuntu in the desktop
market.

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Re: Google Chromium In Lucid

2009-12-12 Thread Aaron Whitehouse
Hello all,

Danny Piccirillo wrote:
 I'm an 100% in support of this. It's really time to be using webkit over
 Mozilla's gecko and Chromium lets us do so without almost no draw backs
 from Firefox. 
 On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 18:31, John Baer bae...@gmail.com 
 IMO Ubuntu should adopt Chrome as the default browser.

While I realise this could well turn into a lengthy argument with no
resolution, I wanted to stick up for the pro-Firefox side for both
practical and ideological reasons.

Personally I think Ubuntu should continue to support Firefox, which is a
non-profit organisation that has always (in my opinion) acted only with
furthering the open web in mind (with the one caveat of the issue over
copyright in the logos).

Google, by contrast, is a huge company that already has a huge amount of
power and a lot of vested interests (search engine, YouTube etc).  While
I realise that a lot of Mozilla's revenue currently comes from Google, I
would prefer to back a non-profit with fewer vested interests.  As one
example, Google included H.264 support in its HTML5 implementation,
which would no doubt save Google money on YouTube (if widely adopted),
but is not in the interests of the open web.

More practically, Firefox has finally grown to a market share that
developers test their websites and applications against it.  Unless
there is a good reason, I don't think that Ubuntu should go back to a
browser with minimal market share.

I am certain many will disagree and I support Google's open approach to
developing an innovative web browser -- I just support Mozilla Firefox more.

Regards,

Aaron

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Re: Google Chromium In Lucid

2009-12-12 Thread Shane Fagan
I would agree but this should be a lucid+1 discussion because chrome
isnt even out for linux yet. Im all for chromes inclusion though because
its simply faster than firefox and most things work already. Also we
have the added advantage of webkit desktop applications too which would
be a nice addition.

Shane Fagan

On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 18:31 -0500, John Baer wrote:
 I've been a loyal Firefox user for many years and until I tested the
 new Google Chrome browser everything paled in comparison.
 
 
 IMO Ubuntu should adopt Chrome as the default browser.
 
 
 The general adoption of Chrome will be quick as Google has a vested
 interest in it's success. I blogged on this topic at projBlog but here
 are the high points.
   * Google is big and Google is pro open source. Supporting this
 effort provides value to Ubuntu
   * Chrome runs well on Ubuntu 
   * Chrome will be well supported
 This time next year it is very likely Google will be well established
 in the Net Book Cloud Computing market which IMO will grow Ubuntu in
 the desktop market.
 
 
 Cheers



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Re: Google Chromium In Lucid

2009-12-12 Thread Dylan McCall
Firefox's biggest issue in Ubuntu, for me, has always been its integration. 
Sure, its UI looks like it uses GTK+ now, (and big kudos for that) but it 
doesn't _feel_ like GTK+.  Meanwhile file and uri handling is done in Firefox's 
own way; the browser has no interest in the standards that Freedesktop and 
others have put so much effort into producing.

Chromium, on the other hand, uses GTK. The main browser window doesn't look 
like GTK usually does, but it feels like a GTK app and all the other windows 
use it. It knows about standards, including how to add to the main menu 
properly. Files and uris are always opened with the correct application 
according to desktop-wide settings. It is aware of GNOME's tools for proxy 
stuff. Even better, it isn't burdened by crazy branding legalese. (In fairness, 
Chrome would be, but there is less need and less expectation to ship that vs. 
Chromium).

I would also like to see Chromium by default (or at least seriously considered) 
in the near future. It would make Ubuntu a smoother, more predictable and more 
consistent experience, greatly improving the out of the box experience for our 
users.


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