Re: GNOME session saving dropped in natty

2011-01-22 Thread Jacky Alcine
On 01/21/2011 01:14 PM, Bryce Harrington wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 07:36:55AM -0800, Rick Spencer wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 16:16 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote:
 Vishnoo [2011-01-21 20:41 +0530]:
 Is there a bug filed for this, which we could follow?
 I don't think we should bother. Session saving can't ever be perfect.
 You won't ever get back things like your unsaved current documents,
 undo buffers, network connections (chat), etc, and those are much more
 interesting than the position of your windows (not that GNOME would or
 could ever get that right even). I think this has always been a
 half-baked misfeature.

 For proper session saving/restoring there is suspend and hibernate.
 Well, there is suspend. Hibernate does not exactly work perfectly for
 many peole.
 Nor does suspend...  ;-)

Is there a way of flashing the loaded applications in memory and all of
those handles to disk and just loading it back?



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Re: GNOME session saving dropped in natty

2011-01-22 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 16:16, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Vishnoo [2011-01-21 20:41 +0530]:
  Is there a bug filed for this, which we could follow?

 I don't think we should bother. Session saving can't ever be perfect.
 You won't ever get back things like your unsaved current documents,
 undo buffers, network connections (chat), etc, and those are much more
 interesting than the position of your windows (not that GNOME would or
 could ever get that right even). I think this has always been a
 half-baked misfeature.


What's wrong with wanting the window positions memorized?


 For proper session saving/restoring there is suspend and hibernate.


 yes, one would want to think so, but then again this is strongly hardware
dependent, and therefore unreliable.
As others state here already, Hibernate is about the most unreliable
feature to avail in Ubuntu, closely followed by Suspend.

I'd opt for the window position thingy.
And i'd use an engine such as used with from Zeitgeist to make it happen.
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Re: GNOME session saving dropped in natty

2011-01-22 Thread Jacky Alcine
On 01/22/2011 06:08 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote:
 Le samedi 22 janvier 2011 à 03:09 -0500, Jacky Alcine a écrit :
 Is there a way of flashing the loaded applications in memory and all of
 those handles to disk and just loading it back?
 There is CryoPID, but it doesn't work (yet?) with X applications, and
 doesn't seem to have gotten much support. Could be a nice solution, in
 an ideal world...

 http://cryopid.berlios.de/


It's probably X's fault to begin with. Maybe the idea of GNOME session
saving dropping in 11.04 is to support session saving under Wayland?



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