Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.

2011-05-15 Thread Emilio López

El 15/05/11 09:16, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió:

 From time to time, I hear people complain about the keyboard shortcuts
to skip back and forth in Totem. I have to say, it took me quite some
time to get used to it, and just now, someone said they wanted to
switch to VLC because of it.

As a reminder, here are the shortcuts I'm talking about: (from
http://reuben.honigwachs.de/2010/01/totem-keyboard-shortcuts-useless.html)
Left arrow: Go back 15 seconds
Right arrow: Go forward 60 seconds
Shift+Left arrow: Go back 5 seconds
Shift+Right arrow: Go forward 15 seconds
Ctrl+Left arrow: Go back 3 minutes
Ctrl+Right arrow: Go forward 10 minutes

These doesn't make much sense to me. It's nice that we can modify the
skip using shift and control, but why doesn't left and right
correspond?
Correspond to what? While I agree that using shift and control might be 
strange for a newcomer, I think left and right are the obvious keys for 
back/forward. Doesn't every player on Earth use those?

I think Totem would be a more user friendly mediaplayer if
these keys were given slightly more intuitive values.
Can you suggest a better key set? I can't think of any, except using 
only left/right with a 'long press to accelerate' feature or something 
like that.


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Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.

2011-05-15 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
su, 2011-05-15 kello 18:34 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad kirjoitti:
 
 I think it would be better if the skips back and forth were the same
 length.

I agree. Long press could accelerate skips.

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Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.

2011-05-15 Thread James Tatum

On May 15, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:

 On 15 May 2011 16:57, Emilio López buhitoesco...@gmail.com wrote:
 El 15/05/11 09:16, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió:
 [snip]
 
 Left arrow: Go back 15 seconds
 Right arrow: Go forward 60 seconds
 Shift+Left arrow: Go back 5 seconds
 Shift+Right arrow: Go forward 15 seconds
 Ctrl+Left arrow: Go back 3 minutes
 Ctrl+Right arrow: Go forward 10 minutes
 I think it would be better if the skips back and forth were the same length.

Disproportionate skips are a very easy way to navigate clips. If you're trying 
to get to a specific thing, you skip forward until you pass it, then you have 
the finer grained control skipping back to get closer to the desired spot. With 
a proportionate 60 second skip, at best you could get within 60 seconds of the 
desired point without having to remember whether you want to use shift-arrow or 
control-arrow for the finer grained control. Many commercial DVRs are 
configured with disproportionate skips today for exactly this reason.
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