Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
I am glad I found this email. I can relate to it in many ways. I've tried to get involved in developing Ubuntu, but nobody has reached out. 11.10 is so bad on my machine I reverted to 10.04. I never liked Unity, it's silly and implies heavy use of the mouse. I want to use the keyboard to navigate everything. I use Unity only with keyboard and not with mouse and it is more keyboard friendly than the old gnome panel. You probably need to learn the keyboard shortcuts before making such statements like unity usage needs heavy use of mouse. The keyboard cheat sheet is available on askubuntu - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
The Unity API is minimal. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI I can't position, I can't edit, I can't remove and I can't add anything. You are comparing a very mature and years old product Firefox with a very recent app called Unity. I am not a Unity dev but I would personally prefer that they put more efforts in making Unity more stable and smooth than adding customization options and making the path towards breaking unity more easier. You said you don't want customizeability (I mean, you make unity have unmodifiable defaults) and you said you want more apps (I mean, you put a huge effort in the Ubuntu Software Store), but these two things are a contradication, because *if we can't do anything, It isn't contradiction. Think about it, write an app which makes a beautiful UI for editing preferences already exposed by Unity. Put it in software center. Plus non customization doesn't mean it is contradiction to app development. If you are writing a word processor app or a media player app how does it matter that for that app to run Unity needs to be more customizable? why should we develop apps for you*? What do you mean by we? It can be reworded as why should *I* write apps for you. Plus I don't know where we are going with this *you* and *us* mentality. Plus, Firefox writes tutorials that start from overview, allow to go in-depth, have examples and I think Ubuntu should do that too developer.ubuntu.com is aimed towards that - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Manish Sinha manishsi...@ubuntu.comwrote: The Unity API is minimal. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI I can't position, I can't edit, I can't remove and I can't add anything. You are comparing a very mature and years old product Firefox with a very recent app called Unity. I am not a Unity dev but I would personally prefer that they put more efforts in making Unity more stable and smooth than adding customization options and making the path towards breaking unity more easier. You said you don't want customizeability (I mean, you make unity have unmodifiable defaults) and you said you want more apps (I mean, you put a huge effort in the Ubuntu Software Store), but these two things are a contradication, because *if we can't do anything, It isn't contradiction. Think about it, write an app which makes a beautiful UI for editing preferences already exposed by Unity. Put it in software center. Plus non customization doesn't mean it is contradiction to app development. If you are writing a word processor app or a media player app how does it matter that for that app to run Unity needs to be more customizable? why should we develop apps for you*? What do you mean by we? It can be reworded as why should *I* write apps for you. Plus I don't know where we are going with this *you* and *us* mentality. Plus, Firefox writes tutorials that start from overview, allow to go in-depth, have examples and I think Ubuntu should do that too developer.ubuntu.com is aimed towards that - Manish I did not say needs, distinct from *implies. *Manish you seem defensive rather than helpful. Where can I get involved without directing me to developer.ubuntu.com or providing me suggestions? Or ask me questions to help you answer my questions? Make love not war. Alexander -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- Alexander -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 05:36:04PM -0500, Alexander wrote: Where can I get involved without directing me to developer.ubuntu.com or providing me suggestions? Hi, this mailing list isn't really about development of Unity but more focused on the overall desktop integration. For Unity-specific mailing lists and IRC channels, see: http://unity.ubuntu.com/contact-us/ Bryce -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: ubuntu lacks ideas, firefox is full of ideas
You're very defensive, argumentative and coming off as belligerent I never knew reply to an aggressive mail is called defensive reply. Anyway I hope you got all your replies and all the questions were answered. By the way thanks for personal attacks. I won't reply back the same way. - Manish -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
