Re: Google Chromium In Lucid
Hello all, Danny Piccirillo wrote: I'm an 100% in support of this. It's really time to be using webkit over Mozilla's gecko and Chromium lets us do so without almost no draw backs from Firefox. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 18:31, John Baer bae...@gmail.com IMO Ubuntu should adopt Chrome as the default browser. While I realise this could well turn into a lengthy argument with no resolution, I wanted to stick up for the pro-Firefox side for both practical and ideological reasons. Personally I think Ubuntu should continue to support Firefox, which is a non-profit organisation that has always (in my opinion) acted only with furthering the open web in mind (with the one caveat of the issue over copyright in the logos). Google, by contrast, is a huge company that already has a huge amount of power and a lot of vested interests (search engine, YouTube etc). While I realise that a lot of Mozilla's revenue currently comes from Google, I would prefer to back a non-profit with fewer vested interests. As one example, Google included H.264 support in its HTML5 implementation, which would no doubt save Google money on YouTube (if widely adopted), but is not in the interests of the open web. More practically, Firefox has finally grown to a market share that developers test their websites and applications against it. Unless there is a good reason, I don't think that Ubuntu should go back to a browser with minimal market share. I am certain many will disagree and I support Google's open approach to developing an innovative web browser -- I just support Mozilla Firefox more. Regards, Aaron -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Live-CD hardware check java applet
Lately, I've been thinking it would be very cool to have an applet on the download page that could examine the users hardware, compare it to values in a database and offer advise based on that. An interesting idea! Will I be able to just reboot into the live-session? Well, if the user can't, then it is really a bug that should be fixed. Unless it is simply a RAM issue. If it is a RAM issue, it would be far nicer to have the Desktop CD recognise that and degrade gracefully to a low-memory session (not that it does, but I believe that WUBI is working on such a low-mem session). Maybe I'll have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in order to see gdm? Again, that sounds like a bug to me. Do I need to use proprietary drivers, and if so, are they included? It could be good to know in advance that the machine requires proprietary drivers. It would only be really important if the user really cared about such things, or if it could not be made to work with non-free drivers. If it can be made to work with non-free drivers, then this should just be a click in the Restricted Drivers applet. The real work would probably be to maintain the database. There are a lot of improvements that I would like to see to the Hardware Database. I maintain a LaptopTesting page and would love to see it tied into the Hardware Database and aggregated by part, not laptop. That way the information could be collated against the actual parts and the actual laptop that you use could merely be a 'set' or 'collection' of the parts that you are reporting on. This could then easily be extended to desktops. This allows far more data to be collected and ensures that people get access to all the information on the part they are using (where to get proprietary drivers etc.) regardless of which make/model of computer they are using. It additionally means that, immediately after submitting to the database the parts that make up a new laptop, one could see voting, comments etc. from the hundreds who use the part in a different laptop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetterLaptopTesting You may also be interested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetterHardwareDatabase?action=fullsearchcontext=180value=hardware+databasetitlesearch=Titles Aaron -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Logout icon
Hello all, I hate to be yet another person writing to the list to comment on icons, but I am going to in order to make one quick comment. I like that Ubuntu has left the ambiguous door icon in favour of the universal power icon on a switch. Unfortunately, I think that the picture of a switch is unnecessarily complicated. The strength of the new icon is the power symbol, not the switch on which it currently resides. If users do not know what the symbol means then they will not be able to interpret the image as a power switch. As such, I personally would like to see the idea retained, but the icon replaced with the simple power symbol (as is in the logout dialogue). Not only do I think this would be easier to interpret, it would seem to go a lot better with all the nice, clean, tango-like icons we have been blessed with lately! Thanks for your excellent work, artwork people! Aaron -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Logout icon
Hi, Manu Cornet wrote: Actually, I would suggest to replace this icon with the current logout icon from the logout dialog (the green circle from which an arrow exits). A few reasons for this suggestion : Having thought about it, I would agree with you for a different reason. I agree about green being like exit signs etc. but think that you could just as easily argue it should be red to signify stop or other dramatic system events. Green more commonly (in my experience) signifies go or start. The most important thing to me, and why I agree with your suggestion, is consistency. I think of the icon as representing power off, because I always use it for that, and that is why I suggested the power-off icon be used. But the icon is not power off - the tooltip and menu entry say log-out (even on a single-user system) - so the icon should similarly be the log-out icon. Thanks for your input, Manu. Aaron -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Logout dialog : 2 sections
Manu Cornet wrote: * How do you like the approach ? :) I really like the look of it :). * Should the two titles be centered instead of left-aligned ? * Should I write Pause session instead of Pause, and Exit session instead of Exit ? Personally I don't see the need for the section titles. I appreciate why you have grouped the icons in that way, but do not see why the user needs that information. To me, simpler is better and the detail of why you grouped them in that way distracts rather than enhances the dialogue. 2c Aaron -- http://www.whitehouse.org.nz smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: G-p-m hding while on AC
Lakin Wecker wrote: Users are accustomed to many types of portable devices which run on batteries: cell-phones, PDAs, music players, and laptops. Knowing the state of the battery is an important part of using the device. I agree with Corey. It's important information, and the current default will confuse people until they learn that the absence of the icon means fully charged. I have to agree with this. The battery state does not cease being important when the battery is full. I personally care about looking after my battery and continually charge and discharge it even when it is on my desk; when it is full I will unplug it. Most laptop users care about their battery state (unless there is no battery present) and it should therefore be there unless it is told not to be. Aaron -- http://www.whitehouse.org.nz smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Fwd: Issue : wireless networking on-the-fly
Hello Lionel, First of all I'll add a disclaimer here that I am not an experienced Linux hacker, but I have set up NM a few times and really like it. Lionel Dricot (aka Ploum) wrote: If I understand, the goal seems to switch to NetworkManager, sooner or later. Interesting, I was not aware of that. It sounds as though the transition to NetworkManager would solve a lot of your complaints. I've apt-getted network-manager and I've lost my connection. I don't understand how to use it. (two processes are running, NM and NM daemon). Can someone explain to me ? (I don't see any new icon, any new applet... strange) I can definitely empathise with you about this as it is not obvious. For some reason the package doesn't set things up properly. If you read the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager it tells you that you need to add nm-applet to your start-up sessions. I think that the package should do this, but it doesn't and it catches everyone that I have seen try to use it. You also need to remove the old network applet from the panel (IIRC) or you get problems. - The first window will contains a list of available (because already configured) places with the current one highligthed AND a the content of the currently active configuration (displayed in a non-editable way). - You can add a place, modify a place, remove a place and, of course, use this place. NM does not have 'Places', but I have found it to be even more intuitive. It remembers APs that you have connected to in the past and will reconnect to them automatically when you are in range. It automatically uses a wired connection if it is present. I like the automatic approach myself and haven't had any problems with it doing the incorrect thing. If it does, there is a very good manual interface that I will come to later. - When you will click on networking applet, it wil bring you a menu with all available places so switching will really be easy. This is one of the nicest things about NM. Have a look at the screenshots on http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ and try it for yourself. - If a connection fails, it will tell you that it cannot connect to the network XXX. Maybe are we not at place YYY ? (in the range for wifi, cable connected for wired) Again, I think that a lot of the need for this is removed because of the intelligent guesses NM can make. It assumes that if you plug in a network cable, you want to use it. If you are in range of an AP that you have connected to in the past and have set up all the information for, it will use it. - It will works ;-) I'm actually surprised that the NM isn't planned for Dapper. I have had very few problems with it (especially compared to the old applet). I encourage you to try NM and decide whether it solves the issues you see. If it does not, you can file the bugs against NetworkManager and they can be addressed :). Thanks for your comments, Aaron -- http://www.whitehouse.org.nz smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
