Re: "you can't catch me" notifications
2014-12-11 14:35 GMT+01:00 Marc Deslauriers : > On 2014-12-11 08:25 AM, Björn Torkelsson wrote: > > > > > > 2014-12-11 1:26 GMT+01:00 Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com>>: > > > > hi, > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 10.12.2014, 23:19 +0100 schrieb Björn Torkelsson: > > > > > > > > the notification behaviour is quite nice as is, i surely > > > wouldn't want > > > to have to click notifications to dismiss them (they are > > > definitely one > > > reason for me to prefer unity over other desktops) > > > > > > > > > It would have been nice to being able to dismiss them before they > > > disappear though, even if they fade away when hovering over them. > > > > the issue with that is that you start clicking them just because it > > takes to long til they go away, they interrupt your work flow that > way, > > i noticed that since we use these kind of notifications in ubuntu > (is it > > 5 or already 6 years that they are the default ?) my own distractions > > have become massively less from having notifications. i read them, > > notice what they want to tell me and simply rely on the fact they > will > > vanish. > > i *never* feel the urge to interact with them (except for the case > where > > they actually cover screen space i want to be able to read). i > > personally found the new notifications a big relief when they landed > and > > still find them to be very convenient *specifically* because you can > not > > interact with them, they make you develop better habits regarding > your > > own work flow. > > i find it awesome that there are desktops like cinnamon where people > > that love to interact with desktop elements can do that, but i > haven't > > found any desktop where all these little things like the above > actually > > sum up to make you so much more productive by simply going out of > your > > way like i have it in unity. i personally prefer to interact with > > content, not with desktop elements ... > > > > > > I mostly agree with you and I think how it currently works is awesome > and does > > not interrupt what you are doing. There are two exceptions, of which you > > mentioned one. The case when you need to read what's behind the > notification and > > can't move the pointer over the notification so it fades away. > > If you can't move the pointer, you wouldn't be able to dismiss it even if > it was > clickable. > Move the pointer, dismiss the notification, move back the pointer. Continue to work. vs Move the pointer, the notification fades away, move the pointer, the notification fades in again. vs Take a coffee break while waiting for the notification to go away :-) > The other case is > > when you (for some reason) want to copy the text in the notification > and/or for > > some reason want to make it persistent. > > Notifications become persistent in the indicators. Clicking the appropriate > indicator should bring you to the actual application which should then > allow you > to copy the required text. > Not necessarily. A (really bad) example is if you have something using notify-send, then there are probably no indicator. But sure you can always argue that it is a bad-written software and/or you can use something like https://launchpad.net/~jconti/+archive/ubuntu/recent-notifications /Björn -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: "you can't catch me" notifications
2014-12-11 1:26 GMT+01:00 Oliver Grawert : > hi, > > Am Mittwoch, den 10.12.2014, 23:19 +0100 schrieb Björn Torkelsson: > > > > > the notification behaviour is quite nice as is, i surely > > wouldn't want > > to have to click notifications to dismiss them (they are > > definitely one > > reason for me to prefer unity over other desktops) > > > > > > It would have been nice to being able to dismiss them before they > > disappear though, even if they fade away when hovering over them. > > the issue with that is that you start clicking them just because it > takes to long til they go away, they interrupt your work flow that way, > i noticed that since we use these kind of notifications in ubuntu (is it > 5 or already 6 years that they are the default ?) my own distractions > have become massively less from having notifications. i read them, > notice what they want to tell me and simply rely on the fact they will > vanish. > i *never* feel the urge to interact with them (except for the case where > they actually cover screen space i want to be able to read). i > personally found the new notifications a big relief when they landed and > still find them to be very convenient *specifically* because you can not > interact with them, they make you develop better habits regarding your > own work flow. > i find it awesome that there are desktops like cinnamon where people > that love to interact with desktop elements can do that, but i haven't > found any desktop where all these little things like the above actually > sum up to make you so much more productive by simply going out of your > way like i have it in unity. i personally prefer to interact with > content, not with desktop elements ... > I mostly agree with you and I think how it currently works is awesome and does not interrupt what you are doing. There are two exceptions, of which you mentioned one. The case when you need to read what's behind the notification and can't move the pointer over the notification so it fades away. The other case is when you (for some reason) want to copy the text in the notification and/or for some reason want to make it persistent. /Björn > > ciao > oli > > > -- > ubuntu-desktop mailing list > ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop > > -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: "you can't catch me" notifications
2014-12-10 18:44 GMT+01:00 Oliver Grawert : > hi, > Am Dienstag, den 09.12.2014, 19:35 -0700 schrieb Cameron Whiting: > > Well, if we can design it for unity8 (to behave that way), we should > > fix it for trusty. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Marc Deslauriers > > wrote: > > On 2014-12-09 09:25 PM, Cameron Whiting wrote: > > > I mean, it's kinda sad since we're on a whole new system, > > but if previous > > > maintained LTS versions can get this fix too that'd be > > great. > > > i think marc meant to say that notifications on the desktop will stay as > is (hopefully they do !!) even with unity8 ... on a phone you surely > want to have a way to dismiss them (swipe them away to the sides or so) > since they eat significant screen space there and you don't have a mouse > pointer to make them transparent as easily to see-trough them. > > the notification behaviour is quite nice as is, i surely wouldn't want > to have to click notifications to dismiss them (they are definitely one > reason for me to prefer unity over other desktops) > It would have been nice to being able to dismiss them before they disappear though, even if they fade away when hovering over them. /Björn > ciao > oli > > > > -- > ubuntu-desktop mailing list > ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop > -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
