Re: Official Ubuntu Documentation broken images

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Samstag, den 06.04.2013, 15:58 +0800 schrieb Ma Xiaojun: 
> Hi,
> 
> For example: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/index.html
> 
> It is acceptable in Firefox since alt attribute of  tag is honored.
> 
> But it looks quite ugly in Epiphany (tested with the version in 12.04)
> and Google Chrome.
> 
> This is an old problem and I just forget to bring it up for long.
> 

I ain't see no images at all ?:-|


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Re: Why ubuntu-desktop depends on xdiagnose and xterm

2013-04-03 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Mittwoch, den 03.04.2013, 13:03 +0200 schrieb Oliver Grawert: 
> hi,
> On Mi, 2013-04-03 at 18:37 +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Oliver Grawert  wrote:
> > > PS: would it be possible for you to use the "reply to list" feature of
> > > your mail client, it is pretty annoying to answer you the way you break
> > > the thread currently (and i am subscribed to the list, there is no need
> > > to CC me) ...
> > 
> > I know Thunderbird has such feature.
> > But I'm using Gmail Web...

... and over it was :-)
Maybe gmail denied the rest of the game ...

btw: I've never seen xirgendwas in my menues - lucky times back there
without unity :-)))


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Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] Reduce patch burden

2012-11-14 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 16.10.2012, 12:13 +0100 schrieb Iain Lane: 
> Hi,
> 
> A lot of our packages are patched over upstream. 

UPSTREAM seems to be one of the most-used words on-list here !?? 
Could someone please explain to the newbie, what this is ?
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Re: [Desktop 13.04-Topic] Discussing PS-related product processes

2012-11-05 Thread Thomas Prost
Thanks to the one that considered, that there are not only desktop
developpers are reading here :-|
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Am Montag, den 15.10.2012, 13:21 +0500 schrieb Omer Akram:
> In case anyone does not know what PS stands for (which I am sure many
> don't). Its Product Strategy previously called DX-team.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Didier Roche 
> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> as you probably know already, PS is our upstream for a lot of
> desktop components nowadays (Unity, compiz, webapps,
> indicators, multi touch stack…).
> The past cycle has been a real ride in term of features, which
> spawn the release team, translation team and documentation
> team with FFe/UIFe. We need to discuss a way to ease the
> process in both ways with all involved parts.
> 
> Seeing the importance of those components on our stack today,
> I think for instance that having a standing FF/UIF exception
> as we have for GNOME components in ubuntu will make sense.
> However, the counter-part will be that PS will work on getting
> things landing only when they are ready, to avoid further and
> further refinements (and additional documentation changes) as
> we had in the past just to "match the date gate". So this one
> can clearly be a win-win situation.
> 
> Also, I want to discuss about what can land in a SRU. Little
> (few pixel move) change, not really impacting the
> documentation may want to be considered. We currently have 2
> examples we can discuss in the session:
> 
> - https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1043808 (Dash: Preview
> activation doesn't have instant feedback). Design worked on a
> spinner to partially address this one. This is a behavior
> change in some way, for a transient state, however it can be
> completely acceptable in a SRU as it will make the quantal
> experience better and don't change doc/add new strings, and so
> on.
> 
> - Another one is the ribbon on the application lens for
> software-center content. This one is giving (due to pixelized
> images with the magazines) a lot of headaches to design and
> they would want to remove it. This specific case is an UI
> change, but doesn't seem it would impact the understanding of
> the lens.
> 
> We can base the UDS discussion on those examples to see how we
> can get the process smoother and more reliable for everyone in
> the next cycle and going on. :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Didier
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Re: [Desktop 13.04-Topic] Having a smart ubuntu desktop

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Donnerstag, den 18.10.2012, 12:17 -0400 schrieb Jeremy Bicha:

(...)
And with that in mind, Ubuntu One really should be part of Online
Accounts, so that I don't have to enter my credentials again when I
want to use the cool extra stuff in Software Center. And Online
Accounts should integrate with my web browser too so I wouldn't have
to enter my password separately when I visit launchpad.net (or similar
Ubuntu sites) too? (I admit I haven't used the Ubuntu webapps feature
very extensively so maybe webapps already works like that.)
(...)

Please, what credentials do I have to enter when I want to use the cool
extra stuff in Software Center. And - BTW - what is that extra stuff
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Re: virtualbox

2012-09-21 Thread Thomas Prost
Is Virtualbox the only virtual machine for ubuntu ?


Am Mittwoch, den 19.09.2012, 15:07 +0100 schrieb Alan Bell: 
> hello, yes I have had problems with 12.10 in virtualbox for sound,
> 
> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016969
> 
> it is possible to get to the pulse audio dialog and change the device to 
> one of the two LFE devices, I can try it again later and provide the 
> exact key sequence to do so. I didn't tag that bug as an a11y bug 
> because it is an "audio totally broken for everyone" bug rather than 
> orca specific issue even though it does mean that Quantal is basically 
> untestable in virtualbox for blind users. It does boot OK when testing 
> on real hardware and you get the drums and ctrl+s starts orca as normal. 
> Ubiquity has changed a bit but I can get all the way through it without 
> cheating and turning my monitor on, I will do a full keystroke guide and 
> audio/video at some point pre-release.
> 
> Alan.
> 
> On 19/09/12 13:54, Peter Vágner wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am running Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit as the main OS. I have installed 
> > virtual box using software centre and checked all the additions during 
> > setup e.g. 32 bit kernel support and network ethernet driver.
> > At the end of a virtualbox install I have just rebooted the machine to 
> > make sure everything is in its place.
> > Then after the boot I have createda new machine in the virtualbox and 
> > I am currently trying to boot a daily live 32 bit image of ubuntu 
> > 12:10 inside it.
> > The virtual machine launches I am even getting informative messages 
> > regarding direct mouse and keyboard capture but I am not getting that 
> > usual drum sounds coming from the guest OS.
> > Is my install of virtualbox screwed or ubuntu 12.10 has changed 
> > something in this regard?
> > I have also waited some 10 minutes in case and pressed ctrl+s without 
> > any audible difference.
> > In the virtual machine settings window I have audio turned on and set 
> > to pulse.
> >
> > Any possible hints?
> >
> > Is anyone running 12.04 in virtualbox with sound output?
> >
> > oh btw on the host OS I can see vbox channel while looking into the 
> > pulseaudio volume control.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> 
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Re: Unity Going Forward

2012-08-17 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 17.08.2012, 07:09 +0200 schrieb Florian Diesch: 
> Am Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:21:18 +0930
> schrieb Jason Warner :
> 
> > Still, with all the above, there will be systems that are simply too
> > old to run Unity. In those cases it would be necessary to either
... or too clever ? I'm so happy, that my graphics prevented me to come
in touch with unity :-))) 
> > stick with 12.04 LTS or run another desktop environment[4].
Can I still get rid of unity in 12.04 ? What's the fallback ?
Up to now I thought, last chance avoiding unity was 11.04. falling back
to gnome2 and metacity !??
In 11.10 it was horrible, but that system couldn't be downgraded
although everybody wanted ...
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Re: Privacy pane in Nautilus folder properties?

2012-06-03 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Sonntag, den 03.06.2012, 20:23 +0200 schrieb Jonas Platte: 
> Am 03.06.2012, 20:11 Uhr, schrieb Thomas Prost :
> 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2012, 13:52 +0200 schrieb Jo-Erlend Schinstad:
> >> The new privacy settings for Zeitgeist are cool and something I think
> >
> > I really would like to see that, but I can't see any appearance of
> > zeitgeist on my Natty systems. Where ist it ???
> It's in the system options, but not till Precise.
> 

Why is zeitgeist-datahub.desktop in autostart in default Natty config ?


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Re: Privacy pane in Nautilus folder properties?

2012-06-03 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2012, 13:52 +0200 schrieb Jo-Erlend Schinstad: 
> The new privacy settings for Zeitgeist are cool and something I think 

I really would like to see that, but I can't see any appearance of
zeitgeist on my Natty systems. Where ist it ???
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Re: Testing nautilus with zeitgeist integration

2012-03-07 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 21:51 +0100 schrieb Sebastien Bacher:
> Hi,
> 
> If anybody watches the ubuntu-desktop ppa and wonders we got an update 
> with this patch in:
> https://code.launchpad.net/~rainct/nautilus/nautilus-zg/+merge/91505
> 
> The code is supposed to push infos about new directories, copies, to the 
> backend used by unity-places-files, we will probably upload that change 
> to precise later this week so if you find any issue please open a bug on 
> nautilus in launchpad and specify you are using the ppa version
> 
> (The ppa infos are on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa 
> for those who didn't use it before)

Am I pitting against the spirit of the time ? Where is the
Zeitgeist ? ;-)

I think, I'm using PLACES (even if it's called ORTE here) umpteen times
a day, but I've never made the acquaintanceship of this fabled
application :-(
I have an uneasy sense of this spirit being in our machines, as there is
a demon that is striking terror into people's hearts at a place of
collection, called the datahub, where some small sqlite data is kept
imprisoned and 80 MB of main memory are eaten up with relish - but: this
Zeitgeist hasn't yet made an appearance on any desktop here up to
now ??? :-(

As I would like to make use of it, are there add-ons to elicit it or is
it so well hidden in the standard desktop, that no one was able to find
it yet ?
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Re: Looking for application testcases

2012-03-05 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 27.02.2012, 13:26 -0500 schrieb Nicholas Skaggs:
> Thomas, this list is for the desktop team. The ubuntu QA team is
> involved with QA activities inside ubuntu. See more about what we do
> and who we are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/
> 
> Hope that helps,
... helped me see, what the QA-Team does :-)

Didn't help about the DesktopTeam.
Maybe it's too busy to provide infos to curious people like me ?
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Re: Looking for application testcases

2012-02-25 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 24.02.2012, 11:24 +0100 schrieb Sebastien Bacher:
> Le 24/02/2012 01:33, Nicholas Skaggs a écrit : 
> > As part of the precise cycle, the ubuntu QA team has been looking to
> > increase manual application testing. As part of this, I have
> > extended 

Sorry, but: Who or what is the ubuntu QA team ?
What kind of people are here else ? Users ? Developers ?
What kind of discussion takes place here ?

I´m new here and BTW: Is my subscription correct ?

Even a look at the archives didn´t help dissolve my confusion :-(
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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 13.02.2012, 12:39 +0800 schrieb Life Monad:

BTW:You can  image, while user works,he open a new window,...desktop
disappears.

<-- that´s it !
And as I still like to run my office applications in full size windows,
I´m looking forward to forget the unity-crisis for some hours ;-)
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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Prost
> Don't mistake the loudest opinions for the majority opinion.  There
> are 
> plenty of people who, like me, really enjoy using Unity everyday.  We 
> just don't hijack every blog of Google+ comment thread to say so.

... and more probably than not, there are unfortunately just as much
people - like me, who do NOT enjoy their "daily unity" but do use it
devoid of grumbling, because they´re committed to the rest of ubuntu
(for months, it seems to me, as if there has merely been a copy of unity
on some ISOs or CDs ?)- also without blogging it everywhere (sorry,
first time happens here) :-( 

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Re: Remove unnecessary objects from the indicators (mainly messages indicator)

2012-02-12 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Sonntag, den 12.02.2012, 14:17 +0200 schrieb Petko:
> On 02/12/2012 01:07 PM, Thomas Prost wrote:
> > Am Montag, den 06.02.2012, 14:32 +0200 schrieb Petko:
> >> On 02/05/2012 04:56 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> >>> On 05. feb. 2012 15:05, Petko wrote:
> >>>> And for Ubuntu One - I'm pretty sure its place isn't in the Messages
> >>>> menu .
> >>>>
> >>> Category indicator menus are for actionable indications that belongs
> > ... sorry - but: What version was that all about ???
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> > Thomas
> >
> >
> Precise (if you're asking about that) .
> 
... yesss :-) (just to pigeonhole your talk)
And additionally I was prying about the panel staying at version 3.2.2.1
in Ubuntu 12.04 ?


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Re: Remove unnecessary objects from the indicators (mainly messages indicator)

2012-02-12 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 06.02.2012, 14:32 +0200 schrieb Petko:
> On 02/05/2012 04:56 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> > On 05. feb. 2012 15:05, Petko wrote:
> >>
> >> And for Ubuntu One - I'm pretty sure its place isn't in the Messages 
> >> menu .
> >>
> >
> > Category indicator menus are for actionable indications that belongs 
> > to a category. When I send you an invitation, it is not just a 
> > notification that something is happening. You need to respond to the 
> > invitation in order to make use of it. But such an invitation is also 
> > a message, which means it is an actionable indication raised by the 
> > message you receive from another user. For that reason, it does belong 
> > in the message menu.
> >
> > The type of invitation I'm talking about, is when someone shares a 
> > folder with you. You can then accept and sync the folder or not.
> >
> > Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> 
> Fair enough :)
> 
... sorry - but: What version was that all about ???
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AW: Call for contributors

2012-01-02 Thread Thomas Prost
Hello alltogether,
is there anything to do for a German documentation writer ?
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Betreff: Call for contributors


Hi everybody,

While the desktop team usually do a great job at maintaining the desktop 
set we know that things are not perfect and that we could do a lot 
better with some extra hands, so if you feel like joining us to work on 
something you are interested in or feels like could be in a better shape 
please do ;-)

We do welcome everybody to join and participate: package maintainers, 
hackers (on softwares or tools), documentation writers, bug triagers, 
tester, etc.

Some examples of packages that could use some work:
- the default set, some applications, bindings, etc are less well 
maintained than others
- the GNOME fallback desktop
- the GNOME session, it would be really cool if a team stepped up to 
maintain a derivative iso with gnome-shell by default

or lot of things which don't really have a maintainer in Ubuntu
- the gimp stack (do we want to update babl and gegl for the lts? 
launchpad has requests for that since new version seem required to build 
new gimp series)
- the gda stack (glom as well)
- vala (the vala-team seems to be looking for somebody to maintain 
unstable serie versions and backports in their ppa)
- libproxy
- lot of popular softwares: tomboy, pitivi, 

Usually what is needed for packaging is: updating to current version, 
merging on Debian once a cycle or so, fixing bugs if you can.

Non packaging contributions are also welcome:
- bug triage
- testing
- improve the documentation (wiki)
- improve the tools the team is using for i.e track updates
- 

So feel free to join the team or ask questions if you have any, you can 
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AW: Login and lock screen dialog should be the same

2012-01-02 Thread Thomas Prost
Just for my grasp:
pre lightdm is 11.04 and earlier ?
lightdm is since 11.10 ?
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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  I see your point but at the same time I disagree. As I pointed out I think
it is important to give Ubuntu a feel of being whole. If I am not mistaken
the old login (pre lightdm) used to be the same as lock screen. I think this
is important because Ubuntu would feel more professional and not like some
OS just put together by random pieces.


  Making it possible to see if others are loged on or not in the lightDM
login screen should not be a huge task/problem eighter. this could be done
by eg. high lighting the user(s) that might be loged in already.


  An alternative might be to make it possible for users to choose between
same login and lock screens or make them different.
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AW: Login and lock screen dialog should be the same

2012-01-02 Thread Thomas Prost
  I´m accordant to what alourie wrote on the 25 Oct

There's benefit to this difference. When I see a login screen, I immediately
know that noone is logged to the machine and thus I have the full local
processing power for me. But when I see a screen lock dialog I know that
there might be running other time-critical processes, that prevent me from
doing my jobs really without delay on this machine - or I might be
disturbing someones work, so I go ahead to another one or login somewhere
remote - a view off a single user system ...

Prost ;-)
Thomas
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  Hi.
  I posted this idea on brainstorm. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28767/
  I was told to forward it to this mailing list. The description of the
problem/idea is in the link.
  Cheers
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