Re: Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
Jeremy agreed. Adam has pulled together a quick patch to resolve which I have included and uploaded. David On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 21:25, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:47 PM David Mohammed > wrote: > > This includes a bunch of upstream changes. The debian package has had > > to be changed quite a bit to accommodate the changes - and a tweak to > > ensure "caffeine" users coming from 18.04 don't crash and burn during > > the upgrade since the new budgie installs the same icons into the same > > folder locations. > > +Replaces: caffeine (<< 10.4) > +Breaks: caffeine (<< 10.4) > > because of > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/caffeine-cup-empty.svg > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/caffeine-cup-full.svg > > Sorry, but I don't think that's the best way to handle this situation. > > Are the icons exactly the same? If so, I suggest asking the Debian > caffeine maintainer if he'd be willing to split the icons into a > separate package that budgie-desktop can depend on. budgie-desktop > then wouldn't need any Conflicts/Breaks/Replaces itself since it never > (assuming people don't run -proposed) shipped those file names. > > Anyway, I think it's impolite to add a conflict like that without > discussing the situation with the maintainer of the package already in > the archive. > > Thanks, > Jeremy Bicha -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:47 PM David Mohammed wrote: > This includes a bunch of upstream changes. The debian package has had > to be changed quite a bit to accommodate the changes - and a tweak to > ensure "caffeine" users coming from 18.04 don't crash and burn during > the upgrade since the new budgie installs the same icons into the same > folder locations. +Replaces: caffeine (<< 10.4) +Breaks: caffeine (<< 10.4) because of /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/caffeine-cup-empty.svg /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/caffeine-cup-full.svg Sorry, but I don't think that's the best way to handle this situation. Are the icons exactly the same? If so, I suggest asking the Debian caffeine maintainer if he'd be willing to split the icons into a separate package that budgie-desktop can depend on. budgie-desktop then wouldn't need any Conflicts/Breaks/Replaces itself since it never (assuming people don't run -proposed) shipped those file names. Anyway, I think it's impolite to add a conflict like that without discussing the situation with the maintainer of the package already in the archive. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
think we have just crossed paths! I've just pushed a new version of budgie-desktop to cosmic in the last hour that includes your changes Iain. This includes a bunch of upstream changes. The debian package has had to be changed quite a bit to accommodate the changes - and a tweak to ensure "caffeine" users coming from 18.04 don't crash and burn during the upgrade since the new budgie installs the same icons into the same folder locations. David On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 17:42, Iain Lane wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 12:27:15PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 02:30:49PM +0100, David Mohammed wrote: > > > So Ubuntu Budgie has a major issue here. I have been plugging away > > > looking > > > at this but really the areas involved aren't in my area of expertise > > > mutter and the in depth relationships with the budgie stack. I will > > > continue to look at the vala coding changes but am not really confident on > > > writing a timely solution for 18.10 beta. > > > > > > Any thoughts on the way forward? I don't know if it is feasible to have a > > > short term 18.10 version of mutter based upon the 18.04 mutter libraries > > > specifically for budgie with gnome shell using the gnome 3.30 mutter > > > version at the same time in the repo. Kludge I know. > > > > Thanks for raising this. > > > > I'm having a look at what changes are required to port this to mutter-3. > > It's going to be mainly that MetaScreen was removed, but you should > > still be able to do everything you could do before. > > I've uploaded my initial port¹ to Cosmic now. I realise this is a little > bit of a forward thing to do, since the code has some known bugs, and I > apologise for any irritation that you feel / have to face from users. > > Hopefully you understand that we need to get moving on testing GNOME > 3.29, and you agree there's enough time left this cycle to shake out > bugs or work on another strategy for keeping budgie rocking on. > > Cheers, > > -- > Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] > Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] > Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] > > ¹ https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop/pull/1523 > -- > ubuntu-desktop mailing list > ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 05:41:33PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 12:27:15PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 02:30:49PM +0100, David Mohammed wrote: > > > So Ubuntu Budgie has a major issue here. I have been plugging away > > > looking > > > at this but really the areas involved aren't in my area of expertise > > > mutter and the in depth relationships with the budgie stack. I will > > > continue to look at the vala coding changes but am not really confident on > > > writing a timely solution for 18.10 beta. > > > > > > Any thoughts on the way forward? I don't know if it is feasible to have a > > > short term 18.10 version of mutter based upon the 18.04 mutter libraries > > > specifically for budgie with gnome shell using the gnome 3.30 mutter > > > version at the same time in the repo. Kludge I know. > > > > Thanks for raising this. > > > > I'm having a look at what changes are required to port this to mutter-3. > > It's going to be mainly that MetaScreen was removed, but you should > > still be able to do everything you could do before. > > I've uploaded my initial port¹ to Cosmic now. I realise this is a little > bit of a forward thing to do, since the code has some known bugs, and I > apologise for any irritation that you feel / have to face from users. Well, I thought I had. But then I got: Rejected: budgie-desktop_10.4+git20171031.10.g9f71bb8-1.2ubuntu2.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 10.4+git20171031.10.g9f71bb8-1.2ubuntu2 <= 10.4+git20180806.01.933f78fc03d-0ubuntu1 and it seems like the new version includes my patch. So... thanks! -- Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 12:27:15PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 02:30:49PM +0100, David Mohammed wrote: > > So Ubuntu Budgie has a major issue here. I have been plugging away looking > > at this but really the areas involved aren't in my area of expertise > > mutter and the in depth relationships with the budgie stack. I will > > continue to look at the vala coding changes but am not really confident on > > writing a timely solution for 18.10 beta. > > > > Any thoughts on the way forward? I don't know if it is feasible to have a > > short term 18.10 version of mutter based upon the 18.04 mutter libraries > > specifically for budgie with gnome shell using the gnome 3.30 mutter > > version at the same time in the repo. Kludge I know. > > Thanks for raising this. > > I'm having a look at what changes are required to port this to mutter-3. > It's going to be mainly that MetaScreen was removed, but you should > still be able to do everything you could do before. I've uploaded my initial port¹ to Cosmic now. I realise this is a little bit of a forward thing to do, since the code has some known bugs, and I apologise for any irritation that you feel / have to face from users. Hopefully you understand that we need to get moving on testing GNOME 3.29, and you agree there's enough time left this cycle to shake out bugs or work on another strategy for keeping budgie rocking on. Cheers, -- Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] ¹ https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop/pull/1523 signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
Hi Iain, I've have raised it here - https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop/pull/1519 i.e. the PR is current publishable progress to-date. David On 6 August 2018 at 12:27, Iain Lane wrote: > On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 02:30:49PM +0100, David Mohammed wrote: >> So Ubuntu Budgie has a major issue here. I have been plugging away looking >> at this but really the areas involved aren't in my area of expertise >> mutter and the in depth relationships with the budgie stack. I will >> continue to look at the vala coding changes but am not really confident on >> writing a timely solution for 18.10 beta. >> >> Any thoughts on the way forward? I don't know if it is feasible to have a >> short term 18.10 version of mutter based upon the 18.04 mutter libraries >> specifically for budgie with gnome shell using the gnome 3.30 mutter >> version at the same time in the repo. Kludge I know. > > Thanks for raising this. > > I'm having a look at what changes are required to port this to mutter-3. > It's going to be mainly that MetaScreen was removed, but you should > still be able to do everything you could do before. > > Is there an upstream issue for this? > > Cheers, > > -- > Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] > Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] > Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] > > -- > ubuntu-desktop mailing list > ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop > -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 02:30:49PM +0100, David Mohammed wrote: > So Ubuntu Budgie has a major issue here. I have been plugging away looking > at this but really the areas involved aren't in my area of expertise > mutter and the in depth relationships with the budgie stack. I will > continue to look at the vala coding changes but am not really confident on > writing a timely solution for 18.10 beta. > > Any thoughts on the way forward? I don't know if it is feasible to have a > short term 18.10 version of mutter based upon the 18.04 mutter libraries > specifically for budgie with gnome shell using the gnome 3.30 mutter > version at the same time in the repo. Kludge I know. Thanks for raising this. I'm having a look at what changes are required to port this to mutter-3. It's going to be mainly that MetaScreen was removed, but you should still be able to do everything you could do before. Is there an upstream issue for this? Cheers, -- Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Cosmic mutter version and budgie desktop
Hi there At the request of Jeremy I have been looking at the new beta version of mutter currently in cosmic proposed and how to make budgie desktop compile against it. For the uninitiated budgie is built using many gnome components including the mutter libraries For this new version of mutter the gnome devs have removed a key part of the api meta.screen and moved various methods around to other headers. Unfortunately this has broken a large part of budgie and quite a bit of rewriting/rewiring will need to be done. Upstream (Solus project) are aware but this rewriting may take some time. Upstream are already talking about dropping mutter with a new window manager. This will not happen in the 18.10 timescales. So Ubuntu Budgie has a major issue here. I have been plugging away looking at this but really the areas involved aren't in my area of expertise mutter and the in depth relationships with the budgie stack. I will continue to look at the vala coding changes but am not really confident on writing a timely solution for 18.10 beta. Any thoughts on the way forward? I don't know if it is feasible to have a short term 18.10 version of mutter based upon the 18.04 mutter libraries specifically for budgie with gnome shell using the gnome 3.30 mutter version at the same time in the repo. Kludge I know. David (Ubuntu budgie project lead) -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
