Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] control center cleanup

2011-10-11 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
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Rodrigo Moya wrote on 10/10/11 17:09:
 
 On sáb, 2011-10-08 at 17:44 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
 
 Rodrigo Moya wrote on 06/10/11 15:23:
 ...
 * language-selector: we just need ability to install languages
 and input method support in the region panel to completely
 remove this
 
 I'm working on the design for that one. 
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-clean-up-language-support


 
yeah, been seeing your changes to the live.gnome wiki page. I'm
 starting to work on all the missing pieces in the region panel
 soon, so will keep you posted of the progress of the
 implementation


Cool. I've completed a draft design now:
https://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/RegionAndLanguage#inline-installation

 * software sources: also maybe as part of the System Info
 panel, which does updates?
 
 The System Info panel shouldn't be in System Settings in the
 first place. It isn't settings.
 
 It is settings. It allows you to force fallback for the session if
 you don't have a supported video card, it allows you to select
 default applications and now, in 3.3, has the Removable Media panel
 included, so it really does allow to set things.


I was referring to the System Info panel in Ubuntu 11.10, which shows
only the Ubuntu version and basic hardware specs.

 It's completely misnamed though. I guess just 'System' or
 something similar should be enough
 
 ...


It might be possible to find a name that explicably covers default
applications + removable media (Applications, perhaps?), but I doubt
it. I think the reason Windows has an AutoPlay panel and OS X has a
CDs  DVDs panel, separate from file handler settings, is probably
that people wouldn't find them otherwise.

And it's necessarily even less likely that there is any name that
could be given to a panel containing OS version info, hardware specs,
session fallback, default applications, *and* removable media, that
would make all of them easily findable.

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Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] control center cleanup

2011-10-11 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mardi 11 octobre 2011 à 17:25 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas a écrit :
 Rodrigo Moya wrote on 10/10/11 17:09:
  It's completely misnamed though. I guess just 'System' or
  something similar should be enough
  
  ...
 
 
 It might be possible to find a name that explicably covers default
 applications + removable media (Applications, perhaps?), but I doubt
 it. I think the reason Windows has an AutoPlay panel and OS X has a
 CDs  DVDs panel, separate from file handler settings, is probably
 that people wouldn't find them otherwise.
 
 And it's necessarily even less likely that there is any name that
 could be given to a panel containing OS version info, hardware specs,
 session fallback, default applications, *and* removable media, that
 would make all of them easily findable.
It's been reported many times, but someone should come up with a
well-though design and arguments to convince the designers.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647442


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Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] control center cleanup

2011-10-08 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
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Rodrigo Moya wrote on 06/10/11 15:23:
 ...
 
 For Oneiric we went the easy route of adding a way to run external
 applications for the stuff we wanted in the control center. But
 this looks quite bad (some panels are embedded, others run a
 separate application), so for P I'd like us to do a cleanup and
 avoid as much as possible having external windows.
 
 So, here's a list of what we have:
 
 * jockey: this could perfectly fit in the System Info panel


I wouldn't call it a perfect fit, but that's one possibility.
Another is Ubuntu Software Center
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28205/, and another is Update Manager.

 * language-selector: we just need ability to install languages and 
 input method support in the region panel to completely remove this


I'm working on the design for that one.
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-clean-up-language-support

 * software sources: also maybe as part of the System Info panel, 
 which does updates?


The System Info panel shouldn't be in System Settings in the first
place. It isn't settings.

 the tricky one is Ubuntu One, so I guess we'd have to leave it as 
 it is, or write a panel that just embeds the u1-panel window? ...


It should embed into the System Settings window on Ubuntu, and into
the Control Panel window on Windows.

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