Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.
James Tatum schreef op zo 15-05-2011 om 10:15 [-0700]: > Disproportionate skips are a very easy way to navigate clips. If > you're trying to get to a specific thing, you skip forward until you > pass it, then you have the finer grained control skipping back to get > closer to the desired spot. With a proportionate 60 second skip, at > best you could get within 60 seconds of the desired point without > having to remember whether you want to use shift-arrow or > control-arrow for the finer grained control. Many commercial DVRs are > configured with disproportionate skips today for exactly this reason. Right, this is very useful (once you get used to it). The only thing that could be done better is adapting to the length of a clip; when you have 1-3 min clip, skipping forward 60 seconds by default is way too much... -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.
On May 15, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > On 15 May 2011 16:57, Emilio López wrote: >> El 15/05/11 09:16, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió: > [snip] > >>> Left arrow: Go back 15 seconds >>> Right arrow: Go forward 60 seconds >>> Shift+Left arrow: Go back 5 seconds >>> Shift+Right arrow: Go forward 15 seconds >>> Ctrl+Left arrow: Go back 3 minutes >>> Ctrl+Right arrow: Go forward 10 minutes > I think it would be better if the skips back and forth were the same length. Disproportionate skips are a very easy way to navigate clips. If you're trying to get to a specific thing, you skip forward until you pass it, then you have the finer grained control skipping back to get closer to the desired spot. With a proportionate 60 second skip, at best you could get within 60 seconds of the desired point without having to remember whether you want to use shift-arrow or control-arrow for the finer grained control. Many commercial DVRs are configured with disproportionate skips today for exactly this reason. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.
su, 2011-05-15 kello 18:34 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad kirjoitti: > > I think it would be better if the skips back and forth were the same > length. I agree. Long press could accelerate skips. -- | Otto Kekäläinen | http://www.sange.fi/ -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.
On 15 May 2011 16:57, Emilio López wrote: > El 15/05/11 09:16, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió: [snip] >> Left arrow: Go back 15 seconds >> Right arrow: Go forward 60 seconds >> Shift+Left arrow: Go back 5 seconds >> Shift+Right arrow: Go forward 15 seconds >> Ctrl+Left arrow: Go back 3 minutes >> Ctrl+Right arrow: Go forward 10 minutes > Correspond to what? While I agree that using shift and control might be > strange for a newcomer, I think left and right are the obvious keys for > back/forward. Doesn't every player on Earth use those? Left and right should correspond to each other. Why does left skip 15 seconds back while right skips 60 seconds ahead? That's four steps. Shift is the same, except it's three steps. With ctrl (if the source is correct), they don't match in steps at all. ctrl+right should be 9 minutes. I think it would be better if the skips back and forth were the same length. Regards, Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.
El 15/05/11 09:16, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió: From time to time, I hear people complain about the keyboard shortcuts to skip back and forth in Totem. I have to say, it took me quite some time to get used to it, and just now, someone said they wanted to switch to VLC because of it. As a reminder, here are the shortcuts I'm talking about: (from http://reuben.honigwachs.de/2010/01/totem-keyboard-shortcuts-useless.html) Left arrow: Go back 15 seconds Right arrow: Go forward 60 seconds Shift+Left arrow: Go back 5 seconds Shift+Right arrow: Go forward 15 seconds Ctrl+Left arrow: Go back 3 minutes Ctrl+Right arrow: Go forward 10 minutes These doesn't make much sense to me. It's nice that we can modify the skip using shift and control, but why doesn't left and right correspond? Correspond to what? While I agree that using shift and control might be strange for a newcomer, I think left and right are the obvious keys for back/forward. Doesn't every player on Earth use those? I think Totem would be a more user friendly mediaplayer if these keys were given slightly more "intuitive" values. Can you suggest a better key set? I can't think of any, except using only left/right with a 'long press to accelerate' feature or something like that. -- Emilio -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
