Re: Suggestions for Ubuntu 11.10

2011-05-17 Thread Jan Claeys
Omal Mannapperuma schreef op ma 16-05-2011 om 13:57 [+0530]:
> I would like to see the following options integrated into Ubuntu 11.10 to
> make it more user friendly than any other versions.
> 
> 1) Ability to search within a folder, just by right clicking on the folder,
> and select "search for files and folders"

Would be nice.

> 2) Make K3B as the default CD/DVD burning application, and if possible, add
> Blu-Ray burning as well into it. Still the application lacks with the
> feature to burn bootable CD/DVDs of any kind, so I would be most delighted
> to see that being integrated into it as well.

There are other tools than K3B, that don't require KDE, and that are
more user-friendly (IMO).

> 3) Make available a single location to enter Proxy settings, and let that be
> spread throughout the system, without any interaction from the user any
> further.

+1 on that.  And it should work across working environments too (GNOME,
KDE, XFCE, LXDE, terminal, etc.).

> 4) Assign a drive letter to the partitions detected by Ubuntu, rather than
> 120GB partition or anything like that.

If you give your partitions a "label", Ubuntu will use that.  Best use a
meaningful label...  ;)

Drive letters tend to change after changes to the hardware or when you
attach USB devices in a different order, so they are a bad idea for a
user interface.

[...]
> The reason is, most computer users are much familiar with Windows, and in
> Windows, they see a much clearer view of their data than in Linux. Because
> of drive letters, it is easier to remember where the data are located.

That's not true.  Windows always assigns C: to the boot partition, so if
you boot from another partition, C: will point to another location.  USB
devices or other swappable devices also don't always get the same "drive
letter".

[...]

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Re: Suggestions for Ubuntu 11.10

2011-05-16 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 16 May 2011 10:27, Omal Mannapperuma  wrote:
> 1) Ability to search within a folder, just by right clicking on the folder,
> and select "search for files and folders"

Why not open the folder and click search? That seems both more
intuitive and less complicated than having to right-click the folder
to get a menu from which you can choose to search.

> 2) Make K3B as the default CD/DVD burning application, and if possible, add
> Blu-Ray burning as well into it. Still the application lacks with the
> feature to burn bootable CD/DVDs of any kind, so I would be most delighted
> to see that being integrated into it as well.
'
Why is K3B more user friendly than the one we currently have installed
by default, Brasero?

> 3) Make available a single location to enter Proxy settings, and let that be
> spread throughout the system, without any interaction from the user any
> further.

What kind of proxies are you talking about here? Do you think it
should be a requirement that system updates are installed from the
same proxy server that you use when you IRC?

> 4) Assign a drive letter to the partitions detected by Ubuntu, rather than
> 120GB partition or anything like that.

That's fairly cute. Tell me; why is "F:\" more user friendly than
"/media/holliday_pictures"? By the way; Ubuntu can never use colon
that way, so it would have to be something like "/F;/". Have a look at
the web and could the number of drive letters you can find. They're
the same kind of addresses, if you weren't aware of it. I don't
understand why it's more user friendly to have different filepaths on
the web and on your computer.

> 5) Add Samba by default to the distribution.

You can right click a file and choose to share it using Samba. Isn't
that good enough? Why?

> 6) Add support for Acer Veriton series as well.

Isn't it supported? Why? File bugs.

> The reason is, most computer users are much familiar with Windows, and in
> Windows, they see a much clearer view of their data than in Linux. Because
> of drive letters, it is easier to remember where the data are located.

Seriously? Microsoft implemented the support to mount partitions in
directories years ago, in Windows XP, I believe. One of the reasons
why that's more user friendly, is that you can split a file hierarchy
into different disks and partitions. For instance, say you travel a
lot and you take lots of pictures and videos from your trips.
Sometimes, you use a memory card, othertimes a usb stick, while still
at other times, you use an external harddrive. Wouldn't it be nice if
they all appeared in /media/travel/ so that when you inserted your
memory card from your trip to Hungary in May this year, it would
appear as /media/travel/hungary-may-2011? In Windows, by default, the
location would depend on other hardware. If you had inserted a memory
card from your kids soccermatch, then instead of F:\, your mmc from
your trip to Hungary would receive G:\, or possibly H:\ if you had
also connected your phone. Please explain how that is more user
friendly?

> People are reluctant to use Ubuntu or any other Linux, because they have to
> learn the shell and al

Where did you get that impression? I take it you're talking about
entering commands in order to get things done? If a normal user
/needs/ do to that, then that is a bug. Can you give some examples? I
feel quite confident this is based on rumors and misconceptions, but
if you prove me wrong, then I'm sure lots of people will be happy to
help fix that problem. Having tested Ubuntu on new and experienced
users for years, I have to say it's been a number of years since last
I experienced such an issue.

I think it's time that things should change. The more user friendly
> Ubuntu can get close to Windows while retaining the stability, you guys will
> be stunned how many will download this magnificient OS on the launching day
> itself, if you put a counter for how many downloads during the launching day
> of a new distribution.

I agree it's time that things should change, but I do not share your
vision of the future. For instance, I don't think a user should have
to remember where files are located or what names they have. The brain
doesn't work that way. It's much easier to remember that your
girlfriend sent you a picture last friday at lunch, than it is to
remember "C:\Users and Settings\jo-erlend\Documents\Shared with
me\Pictures\Irene\dyts20110520113540.jpeg". Don't you think? And what
if downloads from different applications have different download
folders? I would much rather focus on my girlfriend than protocols and
drive letters.

Or lets say you take the train to and from work every day. Since you
have a laptop and the train has an internet connection, you spend your
time traveling to and from work as productively as you can. Your
computer has a GPS installed. So after going to work one morning, you
simply tag that travel as "office". From now on, you can just type "to
office" and you get a complete overview of everything

Suggestions for Ubuntu 11.10

2011-05-16 Thread Omal Mannapperuma
I would like to see the following options integrated into Ubuntu 11.10 to
make it more user friendly than any other versions.

1) Ability to search within a folder, just by right clicking on the folder,
and select "search for files and folders"

2) Make K3B as the default CD/DVD burning application, and if possible, add
Blu-Ray burning as well into it. Still the application lacks with the
feature to burn bootable CD/DVDs of any kind, so I would be most delighted
to see that being integrated into it as well.

3) Make available a single location to enter Proxy settings, and let that be
spread throughout the system, without any interaction from the user any
further.

4) Assign a drive letter to the partitions detected by Ubuntu, rather than
120GB partition or anything like that.

5) Add Samba by default to the distribution.

6) Add support for Acer Veriton series as well.

The reason is, most computer users are much familiar with Windows, and in
Windows, they see a much clearer view of their data than in Linux. Because
of drive letters, it is easier to remember where the data are located.
People are reluctant to use Ubuntu or any other Linux, because they have to
learn the shell and all, they must know what exactly they are doing with
Linux rather than with Windows, because one wrong move could be disasterous
even. I think it's time that things should change. The more user friendly
Ubuntu can get close to Windows while retaining the stability, you guys will
be stunned how many will download this magnificient OS on the launching day
itself, if you put a counter for how many downloads during the launching day
of a new distribution.

I must thank all the development team of Ubuntu for launching a magnificient
OS to the world, when in need.

Thank you.
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