2010-11-22, Ubuntu SRU and LTS - minutes

2010-11-22 Thread Kate Stewart
Thank you to all who attended this initial meeting earlier today.  :)

Action Items taken down during the meeting were:
* [cjwatson, apw, Keybuk, azul] - to come up with proposal to handle
upstart interaction/bug 642555 
  * [victorp] look at adding hardware cert reports with architectures as
one of the pieces of info tracked for SRU meeting 
  * [pedro, marjo] - look at adding regression test report as one of the
pieces of info tracked for SRU meeting. 
  * [victorp, pedro, bjf, skaet] to set date for next target SRU
release. We'll be skipping Dec. 2. 
  * [skaet, victorp, bjf, pitti] - meet to discuss SRU release of
maverick post hardware cert testing results 

Detailed minutes from the meeting can be found at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-11-22-SR

Thanks,  Kate



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Re: Natty-changes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 154

2010-11-22 Thread Micah Gersten
Note: changes E-Mail trimmed for focus

On 11/22/2010 04:30 AM, natty-changes-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>5. [ubuntu/natty] xorg 1:7.5+6ubuntu3b1 (Accepted) (Martin Pitt)
>6. [ubuntu/natty] alsa-driver 1.0.23+dfsg-2ubuntu1b1 (Accepted)
>   (Martin Pitt)
> --
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:20:28 -
> From: Martin Pitt 
> Subject: [ubuntu/natty] xorg 1:7.5+6ubuntu3b1 (Accepted)
> To: natty-chan...@lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
>   <20101122102028.3126.62174.launch...@cocoplum.canonical.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> xorg (1:7.5+6ubuntu3b1) natty; urgency=low
> 
>   * No-change upload to drop old changelog and truncate sizable Debian
> changelog.
> 
> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:11:26 +0100
> Changed-By: Martin Pitt 
> Maintainer: Ubuntu X-SWAT 
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xorg/1:7.5+6ubuntu3b1
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:20:34 -
> From: Martin Pitt 
> Subject: [ubuntu/natty] alsa-driver 1.0.23+dfsg-2ubuntu1b1 (Accepted)
> To: natty-chan...@lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
>   <20101122102034.3126.99279.launch...@cocoplum.canonical.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> alsa-driver (1.0.23+dfsg-2ubuntu1b1) natty; urgency=low
> 
>   * No-change upload to drop sizable upstream changelog.
> 
> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:16:14 +0100
> Changed-By: Martin Pitt 
> Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers 
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/alsa-driver/1.0.23+dfsg-2ubuntu1b1

I thought that dch -R did the right thing with regard to rebuilds,
(buildX on a Debian/native revision, increment the Ubuntu revision), is
this broke?

Micah

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Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-22 Thread Stephan Hermann
Good Morning Dustin,

On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:50 -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote:
> Stephan Hermann  wrote:
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 13:18 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >> On Friday, November 19, 2010 12:02:33 pm Dustin Kirkland wrote:
> >> > Confirmed this on RHEL6 yesterday.  I installed RHEL6 in multiple
> >> > different modes (minimal, default, developer workstation), all of
> >> > which a) were running sshd, b) had a root user with a password.
> >>
> >> Yes, but RHEL6 doesn't dhcp by default and Ubuntu Server does so the attack
> >> surface for a default RHEL6 install is rather more limited.
> >
> > To be honest, there is no difference in installing RHEL6 with a static
> > ip address or Ubuntu Server with DHCP enabled.
> >
> > I think we need to find out first, what user base we want to point at.
> >
> > The SysAdmin of a Company with Enterprise Classed Datacenter
> > or the guy/gal from around the corner who is testing ubuntu server?
> >
> > The SysAdmin will have network security in place (if not..oh well), and
> > mostly is he/she not using public IP addresses, and/or they setup their
> > DHCPd to match the MACs of the NICs inside their servers.
> >
> > I am now wondering if we really should change something. As long as I'm
> > thinking about the topic, I'm coming to my conclusion, that we just
> > should tick sshd by default during tasksel in the installer, and that's
> > it. For most of the admins out there, it really doesn't matter, because
> > they have other ways to deploy ubuntu server on their servers.
> 
> I agree, Stephan.
> 
> The installer complexity can be avoided by just ticking the "OpenSSH
> Server" in the top of the tasksel page as you suggest;  document that
> change thoroughly and publish it far and wide; note the stronger
> sshd.conf configurations from Marc and the security team in the SSH
> help page.

Yes. We can harden sshd a bit more and document the changes in d-i
tasksel via ReleaseNotes and some public announcement on blogs/p.u.c.

> 
> Unfortunately, I don't think we're reaching a consensus here on ubuntu-de...@.
> 
> I'm going to redraft the proposal, note that there was no general
> consensus on the matter in the ubuntu-devel@ mailing list, and ask the
> Tech Board for guidance.  Thanks everyone for the lively discussion.

This is something we need to do anyhow. TB has the final say.

Regards,

\sh

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Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-22 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Oliver Grawert (o...@ubuntu.com):
> the serial port should be enabled automatically if you set the console=
> boot parameter to a serial tty (i.e. console=ttyS0,115200n8) its rerally

Are you sure?  Bc when I tried this just last night on a 10.04
server, I still had to create an /etc/init/ttyS0.conf with the
obvious contents in order to get a login prompt (even, iirc,
boot messages) on ttyS0.

It's not a big deal, but of course it means you have to have
some other way of getting into the box after install to set
that up first.

-serge

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