Re: Moving udd to django

2011-12-10 Thread James Westby
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:52:40 +1300, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net 
wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:10 PM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net 
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I think there are a few reasons that we should consider moving udd to
  django (more on what this actually means later.)
 
 I'm curious what data udd stores.

There are two sets.

There's the bookkeeping data for running import-package each time a
package is uploaded to Debian or Ubuntu, keeping track of failures, etc.

Then there's the bookkeeping data for import-package itself, about what
it thinks the state of bzr is etc.

These should be treated differently, with the former the one that is
more important for the goals laid out here.

Thanks,

James

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Re: Moving udd to django

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:28 AM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:52:40 +1300, Robert Collins 
 robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:10 PM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net 
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I think there are a few reasons that we should consider moving udd to
  django (more on what this actually means later.)

 I'm curious what data udd stores.

 There are two sets.

 There's the bookkeeping data for running import-package each time a
 package is uploaded to Debian or Ubuntu, keeping track of failures, etc.

It might be interesting - as a thought experiment if nothing else - to
consider failures a form of crash and upload them to a crash database
rather than processing them inside udd - e.g. toss them out over amqp.

-Rob

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Re: Moving udd to django

2011-12-10 Thread James Westby
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:38:25 +1300, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net 
wrote:
 It might be interesting - as a thought experiment if nothing else - to
 consider failures a form of crash and upload them to a crash database
 rather than processing them inside udd - e.g. toss them out over amqp.

The current design is that it also uses them to avoid acting on that
package until there is manual intervention.

So it may be interesting to use oopses to communicate the problems and
do analysis of them, but it won't avoid storing the data as well unless
that model is changed.

Thanks,

James

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Re: Moving udd to django

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:19 AM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:38:25 +1300, Robert Collins 
 robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
 It might be interesting - as a thought experiment if nothing else - to
 consider failures a form of crash and upload them to a crash database
 rather than processing them inside udd - e.g. toss them out over amqp.

 The current design is that it also uses them to avoid acting on that
 package until there is manual intervention.

 So it may be interesting to use oopses to communicate the problems and
 do analysis of them, but it won't avoid storing the data as well unless
 that model is changed.

I'm sure the data needs to be stored somewhere. If its in a crash
database, then you can ask 'has this crash been handled' where I guess
handled means flagging the crash signature in someway ('retry', 'bug
X', ..). The poential benefit I see is one less place writing fault
aggregation heuristics.

-Rob

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Re: REVU, #ubuntu-packaging, and mentors.debian.org

2011-12-10 Thread Allison Randal
On 12/10/2011 11:41 AM, Scott Ritchie wrote:
 
 If you're going to leave REVU up, you need to make it very clear that
 it's neglected within the REVU submission interface itself.

The notices up on the website help, but the actual submission interface
for REVU is dput. The revu-hackers may have ideas on how much leeway
we've got to hook extra actions into a dput upload.

Allison

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Re: REVU, #ubuntu-packaging, and mentors.debian.org

2011-12-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On 12/10/2011 09:36 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
 On 12/10/2011 11:41 AM, Scott Ritchie wrote:

 If you're going to leave REVU up, you need to make it very clear that
 it's neglected within the REVU submission interface itself.
 
 The notices up on the website help, but the actual submission interface
 for REVU is dput. The revu-hackers may have ideas on how much leeway
 we've got to hook extra actions into a dput upload.

I think for REVU it's reasonable to expect people will look at the web
site or some related documentation.  I think if it's clear there, that's
sufficient.

Scott K

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Re: Fwd: libmpfr1ldbl not found in oneiric

2011-12-10 Thread Andreas Moog
On 12/09/2011 06:48 PM, diego fanesi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to install bigbluebutton on oneiric but libmpfr1ldbl package
 seems to be missing.

The whole mpfr source package has been replaced by mpfr4. The library
package is currently called libmpfr4.

 Could you add this package on official oneiric repository or check 
 dependencies
 of bigbluebutton?

Since bigbluebutton isn't in the official repositories, you should
direct your question to the maintainers. They should update their ppa
for oneiric.

Bye, Andreas



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