Re: CDRDAO
On Jan 7, 2012 8:22 PM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote: Well, I realized gcdmaster was gone. A great loss to any musician who wishes to make a CD. However it seems cdrdao is also not included in Ubuntu studio any more. Not having a good TOC editor is one thing, but with cdrdao at least it _could_ still be done if manually making a toc file was ok. CDRDAO is the only cd writer that seems to write disk at once. It is installable... lets get it in there. I was going to try writing a less fancy toc editor than gcdmaster, but for that to be any use we must have cdrdao. The loss of cdrdao seems to me a bigger loss than gcdmaster. On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 08:56:09PM -0500, Mike Holstein wrote: Agreed... Please don't top-post. :) I actually started a project for this, check it out at [0]. And cdrdao hasn't gone away, it's there still in precise and depended upon by ubuntustudio-recording and -generation. (granted, this might have changed since you wrote this already in January) I encourage everyone interested about it to participate in the development, I'm by no means a GTK3 expert, so will not advance rapidly with the porting. It is currently governed by lp:~ubuntustudio-dev, but if you're not part of this team, you can still hack on the project, and suggest merge proposals which will then be taken under evaluation. This would be great to get included in the Q release, but I have absolutely no idea whether we can make it. Worth a shot, no? [0]: https://launchpad.net/gcdmaster-gtk3 Best regards, -- Jaska (astraljava on irc.[oftc|freenode].net) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: CDRDAO
On Tue, April 10, 2012 6:07 am, Janne Jokitalo wrote: On Jan 7, 2012 8:22 PM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote: Well, I realized gcdmaster was gone. A great loss to any musician who I actually started a project for this, check it out at [0]. And cdrdao hasn't gone away, it's there still in precise and depended upon by ubuntustudio-recording and -generation. (granted, this might have changed since you wrote this already in January) Ya, cdrdao was missing at the time, it went back in within days of us finding it was missing. I was doing more mail list stuff then and less irc. I encourage everyone interested about it to participate in the development, I'm by no means a GTK3 expert, so will not advance rapidly with the porting. So this is mostly GUI stuff? So two porting issues, G2 and gtk2 to gtk3. The last gui stuff I have done(outside of script) was on an Atari STe Mega... when BBSs were still big, 1200 Baud was fast and Internet was not yet in anyone's house ;-) So it is about time to learn something new. I'll do what I can to help. Are there tools for building a gtk3 GUI? would it be easier to build the gui and then figure out what code it needs to be connected to? Or is it better to change out bit by bit? This would be great to get included in the Q release, but I have absolutely no idea whether we can make it. Worth a shot, no? Worth it whenever it gets done, but sooner the better. I will probably keep 11.04 on a disk somewhere just to keep gcdmaster available till it's done. I would suggest getting the editing part done first, but probably easy first and harder later. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
An early cry for help for testing Release Candidates
Hi, it's that time again, the end of a cycle is at hand. This time it's something special, too. (yea I know we always say that) But it's the first LTS (long term support) release with the new system basing on Xubuntu (and its XFCE Desktop Environment), so we'd like to ask for Your assistance in making sure all possible wrinkles are getting ironed out, to provide as bug-free release as possible. So, if you feel like you have a few spare hours during the next two weeks or so (the exact dates will be announced later), and have an access to a USB stick, a DVD+RW disc (or just several non-re-writables) and a machine you can play with, please help testing the images! The website where ISO testing is tracked can be found at [0], it already has the earlier milestones listed on the front page, but will contain the final release candidate tests in due time. Please note that the daily image testing is on-going as you read this, so participating is already possible, and not only that but highly appreciated. If you have questions regarding the testing, or just want to discuss about anything related, feel free to 0) respond to this message, 1) start a new thread on either list, 2) join us on IRC at [1] or [2]. I do want to highlight the recommendation of reading the testcases, though, so that full potential of the testruns could be acquired. But every bit of information counts, so thanks in advance for all that are filed. More details will be posted again as we are nearing towards the action, this is just a heads-up so that you can plan accordingly. Thanks for participating and making Ubuntu (Studio) better, and overall for being a part of the community! [0] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com [1] #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net [2] #ubuntustudio on irc.freenode.net Best regards, -- Jaska (astraljava on irc.freenode.net) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [RFC] Proposal to disable Wubi Installs from 12.04 (but maintain the separate .exe)
Hello all, To complete the discussion, based on the below comments and others, I logged the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/975251 please hide the install ubuntu option from wubi.exe on the CD It seems to be Fixed Relese already. Cheers, Rick On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Evan Dandrea evan.dand...@canonical.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Kees Cook k...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:37:06AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: 3. We disable the ability to do a wubi installation from the Ubuntu 12.04 ISOs. (wubi will remain on the images for the purpose of providing Windows users some feedback and functionality if they put a Ubuntu CD into a running Windows computer, but won't offer to install). At this time, we don't expect to be able to reclaim any space on the ISO with this change. In the future we may consider splitting the autorun menu out of wubi.exe to save some space (this is how it was structured originally), but it's very late in the cycle to attempt such a refactoring for 12.04. It's safer to simply disable the install option when run from the CD. Oh, whoops. I re-read Rick's email a few times and continued to miss that. What kind of feedback is shown with this change? Is it actually useful (i.e. not just install greyed out)? Apologies for the late reply. It would look something like this (not sure what happened to the anti-aliasing there): http://people.canonical.com/~evand/tmp/wubi_without_wubi.png The demo and full installation option puts the Ubuntu installation medium into the Windows bootloader, so the user doesn't have to faff about with their BIOS settings. The learn more option takes you to http://www.ubuntu.com. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Minutes from the Ubuntu Kernel Team meeting, 2012-04-10
= Meeting Minutes = [[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/10/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt|IRC Log of the meeting.]] [[http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam|Meeting minutes.]] == Agenda == [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues, 10 Apr, 2012|20120410 Meeting Agenda]] === ARM Status === nothing new to report this week === Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs === Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt === Milestone Targeted Work Items === || apw || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review || 1 work item || || ogasawara || hardware-p-kernel-config-review|| 1 work item || || || hardware-p-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item || apw and I are aware of our work items, we'll get them closed before final. === Status: Precise Development Kernel === The Precise kernel is currently frozen and Final Freeze is this Thurs Apr 12. We have coordinated one additional upload scheduled for today (likely to occur after this meeting). At this point in time, all patches are subject to our SRU policy and uploads will only be granted at the discretion of the release team. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/StablePatchFormat Important upcoming dates: * Thurs Apr 12 - Final Freeze (~2 days) * Thurs Apr 19 - Release Candidate (~1 week) * Thurs Apr 26 - Final Release (~2 weeks) === Status: CVE's === Currently we have 72 CVEs on our radar, with no new CVEs added this week. See the CVE matrix for the current list: * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html Overall the backlog has decresed very slightly this week: * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt === Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy === Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (Apr. 10): Oneiric has been somewhat problematic. We ran into a couple of very bad regressions that were pretty quickly identified. Our policy is to revert aggressively however our number one rule is to Use our best judgement and do the right thing. In this case we are also running into the end of the Precise development cycle when testing resources (human) are scarce. After discussing this with a number of people we have decided to fix these known regressions and also pull in the stable release that was sitting on master-next and crank that out. The cycle will be extended with regression testing happening the week of May 1st. * Hardy- 2.6.24-31.101 - Nothing this cycle * Lucid- 2.6.32-41.88 - Verification; 52 commits in total. * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.68 - Ready for -updates; NOTE: THIS IS THE LAST MAVERICK KERNEL! * Natty- 2.6.38-14.58 - Ready for -updates; 12 commits in total. Mostly eCryptfs and KVM. * Oneiric - 3.0.0-19.32 - Verification; Current opened tracking bugs details: * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html Future stable cadence cycles: * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock === Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized === No Discussion. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
ARM porting jam on Wednesday
Dear ARM fans, Linaro Developer Platform team organises every week an ARM porting Jam. Next one will be on Wednesday 11th April (we moved from Friday cause weekend does not help in remembering which patches are still to send upstream). The idea is to gather all developers together to fix user space portability issues across the board. There are several things to work on: - the list of bugs being worked on is at launchpad [1] with more useful web interface at [2] 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-porting-queueorderby;=-id 2. http://people.linaro.org/~rsalveti/arm-porting-queue/arm-porting-queue-report.html - list from 'make multiarch cross-building work' process which is described at [3][4] with logfiles available at [5] - now that the release is close non-trivial fixes should rather go into Debian than Ubuntu. As this is cross compiler related you do not even have to use ARM devices. 3. http://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/CrossCompile/MultiarchCrossBuildStatus 4. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/CrossDependencies 5. http://people.linaro.org/~wookey/buildd/precise/sbuild-ma/status.html - You can also help with libffi related issues if you can - list is available at Debian wiki [6] 6. http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatTodo#libffi Interested in making the software in Ubuntu run better on ARM? Join us on the #linaro channel on irc.linaro.org (aka freenode) today! -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
lib-postgresql-jdbc-java
I was curious why lib-postgresql-jdbc-java in Sid is updated to postgres 9.1 but precise still provides the packages for 8.x. Was this an intentional decision or did it get overlooked somehow? Thanks, Brian -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Ubuntu 12.04 Kernel Version - 3.2
Hi All, Now that we are past the Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04 Kernel Freeze, the Ubuntu Kernel Team felt this would be an appropriate time to officially confirm and announce that the Ubuntu 12.04 kernel will be based on the upstream v3.2 Linux kernel [1]. Going forward, we'll continue to update the Ubuntu 12.04 kernel with the latest upstream v3.2.y Linux stable kernel releases. For those seeking the specific details of all the changes provided in the Ubuntu 12.04 kernel, please refer to the ubuntu-precise git repository [2]. We've also categorized the Ubuntu specific changes in an UbuntuDelta wiki for anyone interested [3]. Thanks, The Ubuntu Kernel Team [1] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=805a6af8dba5dfdd35ec35dc52ec0122400b2610 [2] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git;a=summary [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ/UbuntuDelta -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Ubuntu 12.04 Kernel Configurations
Hi All, Now that we are past the Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04 Kernel Freeze, the Ubuntu Kernel Team felt this would also be an appropriate time to advertise what we intend to be the final kernel configurations for all the main distro and ports kernel flavors. The purpose is to expose the main configuration changes and provide pointers to the full configurations for those who are interested. To aid in the comparison of kernel config changes from Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric) to Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) we have generated a kernel configuration comparison report [1]. We have also posted the full Ubuntu 11.10 and Ubuntu 12.04 configurations for each flavor [2]. Thanks, The Ubuntu Kernel Team [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Configs/OneiricToPrecise [2] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/configs -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:26:50PM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: Oh it goes well and truely far beyond that. Some pinhead decided to move /var/run to /run without leaving a symlink or informing and updating packages. I had an unfortunate 10.04 LTS system go unbootable until I got onto the console to fix it so networking could even come up since on that machine it was depending on dhcp and a handful of other things to check in via the FHS accepted and everything but ubuntu /var/run. And this was a normal system. Whose stupid idea was *that*? The same moron who was pissing and moaning about moving all binaries into /bin or some other idiocy? I am so very glad I never bought the Linux desktop coolaide. Though I guess Windows 8 designed for mobile and tablets is getting pushed to the desktop too so precise may as well break the long standing /var/run practice of this is where pid files go without fixing any stock packages. /rant Michael and others, I realize it can be very satisfying to deliver a well-placed rant, but I hope I'm not out of line to remind everyone that without moderating our language to be as unoffensive as possible, no web conversation can be very productive. The issues you've brought up are, of course, quite valid; I only suggest that the conversation avoid inflammatory epithets (whose stupid idea..., etc.), and that we try to get to the root of whatever problem exists with the help of those who generously donate their time to Ubuntu, rather than ranting at those same people. I realize that my own language has been pretty blunt, but within the bounds of explaining an issue, I hope I haven't been too offensive. Also, if this thread isn't the appropriate place to discuss problems with development trends, etc., then will somebody please inform me/us of where such a discussion would be more appropriate? I've taken the liberty of posting my essay on my blog, at: http://danemutters.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/on-the-state-of-linux-gui-development/ ...in case people find it more appropriate to deal with the issues there. I'll make a point of moderating inflammatory comments there (hopefully without stifling any worthwhile ideas in the process). All are free to comment on the blog, so long as we're respectful. Oh,come on. Let's not start this again. What is it about the various Ubuntu lists that causes the Manners Police to fire up their computers to pop out how we unwashed masses should comport ourselves every time the discussion gets a little spirited? I assume the people on this list are adults, capable of reading things like pinhead, stupid, moron, etc without getting the vapors and reaching for the smelling salts. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:26:22 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:26:50PM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: ... Oh,come on. Let's not start this again. What is it about the various Ubuntu lists that causes the Manners Police to fire up their computers to pop out how we unwashed masses should comport ourselves every time the discussion gets a little spirited? I assume the people on this list are adults, capable of reading things like pinhead, stupid, moron, etc without getting the vapors and reaching for the smelling salts. Certainly. The delete key works great for such cases. If you want to contribute to the Ubuntu community in a way that is going to be effective, then poorly written rants aren't the best way to go about it. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 08:46:23 PM Dane Mutters wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.comwrote: On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:26:22 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:26:50PM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: ... Oh,come on. Let's not start this again. What is it about the various Ubuntu lists that causes the Manners Police to fire up their computers to pop out how we unwashed masses should comport ourselves every time the discussion gets a little spirited? I assume the people on this list are adults, capable of reading things like pinhead, stupid, moron, etc without getting the vapors and reaching for the smelling salts. Certainly. The delete key works great for such cases. If you want to contribute to the Ubuntu community in a way that is going to be effective, then poorly written rants aren't the best way to go about it. Scott K So, now that we've gotten some matters of conduct out of the way (we have, haven't we?), does anyone care to suggest what to do about making the GUI(s) of Ubuntu more usable for those who aren't OK with the current offerings? I think we've outlined the problem fairly well (thanks to those who have posted thus far), though further explanation would, of course, be welcome, should something be missing. Scott K, you've typically been a voice of reason on the Ubuntu mailing lists in the past; do you have any insights? Anyone else? Ubuntu is on a train and that train is called Unity. The tracks are being laid within Canonical and it is very difficult to influence where they are being put down from the outside. The Canonical design team has started to engage the community to discuss some of the relevant issues (although I haven't been following the details). You should accept that you aren't going to make major changes in where Unity is headed. It just isn't going to happen from the outside. You can either get on this Unity train or pick another one. Those are really the choices. Personally, I run Kubuntu. Xubuntu is also very popular. I believe that there is a community forming around the idea of trying to similarly provide a Gnome 3 experience from within the Ubuntu project. You need to figure out which one you like best. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Dane Mutters dmutt...@gmail.com wrote: [...] So, now that we've gotten some matters of conduct out of the way (we have, haven't we?), does anyone care to suggest what to do about making the GUI(s) of Ubuntu more usable for those who aren't OK with the current offerings? Have you considered trying the other window manager that are available for installation? Between Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu which each install their own different window manager by default; and being able to install GNOME Shell (gnome-shell) to replace Unity (or gnome-session-fallback for a GNOME2-like look), there's a fair amount of choice. No matter which option you'll choose, there is bound to be some amount of change in the look and feel, since even GNOME is moving away from what you're used to seeing in 10.04 with the two panels. That will mean some amount of relearning, with a varying transition period depending on your choice. As far as I can tell, from an LTS to LTS upgrade perspective it's all a matter of choosing whether you want to spend increasing amounts of time figuring out how to get the same look you were used to, or spending a (relatively) finite amount of time relearning interface to familiarize yourself with new window manager of choice. That's true for all other distros at this point in time, the difference is that Ubuntu has chosen to go with Unity as the default window manager for Ubuntu Desktop installs (as opposed to Kubuntu or others). Regards, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@ubuntu.com Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
