Re: ubuntu-devel should be the center of ubuntu development
On 01/10/2015 01:58 AM, Jorge O. Castro wrote: Having falling victim to "it's so easy to just post on G+" syndrome just like everyone else, I think we should fix this. Developers are obviously not going to "just update your blog", should we look at some sort of way of integrating social network posts into other Ubuntu tools? Define "integration" here? Aggregate? Forward? Aggregating the stream might provide some value here, I guess. I'm lukewarm. There was a point in time when ubuntu-devel was too granular; I just want to kick of a discussion if the pendulum has swung too far to the other side. Thoughts? I'd start with the specific problem you want to solve. I know sometimes this can devolve, but I can't intuit what you want to accomplish. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] Please, consider reflecting on the Canonical Contributor Agreement
On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 10:01:49AM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote: > Maybe. I contributed small patches to GCC for years before taking the > leap and signing my soul over to the FSF so I could get them to accept > more substantial pieces of work (and they could relicense it to third > parties to earn revenue). My understanding of the FSF/GNU copyright assignment is that in their part of the legal paperwork, they pledge to only relicense the code under a license of similar spirit. So the above is FUD AFAICT. Now if you don't trust the FSF that much that you think GPLv4 will be a proprietary license, then maybe your above statement makes sense. OTOH, if you haven't understood the FSF/GNU copyright assignment, it might explain why you seem to be oblivious to other people's reservations with the Canonical CLA. Michael -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: ubuntu-devel should be the center of ubuntu development
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Thanks for bringing it up, and sorry for the misunderstanding! No need to apologize, it's just an example of a recent trend that we're all a part of. -- Jorge Castro Canonical Ltd. http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: ubuntu-devel should be the center of ubuntu development
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:11:09AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > Jorge O. Castro [2015-01-10 1:58 -0500]: > > Having falling victim to "it's so easy to just post on G+" syndrome > > just like everyone else, I think we should fix this. > > [...] > > There was a point in time when ubuntu-devel was too granular; I just > > want to kick of a discussion if the pendulum has swung too far to the > > other side. Thoughts? > > Fully agreed. I like G+ for staying in touch, but I consider it a > "lossy" medium like IRC. People may read it or not, and it's not the > right tool for official announcements -- ubuntu-devel-announce@ is > just for that. Yes indeed!! E.g. I'd love it if Mark would post the names for new releases here also, like it was long ago. Combining email push notifications with the various social media options can help make a bigger splash. Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: ubuntu-devel should be the center of ubuntu development
Hey Jorge, Jorge O. Castro [2015-01-10 1:58 -0500]: > Someone on google plus pointed out this great page on how users can > best apply upstart concepts to systemd: > > - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers > > Thanks to the people who put this page together, it's been really > helpful for me to figure out what I need to know for the transition. > > I'd like to bring this announcement up as an example of where I think > we could do a better job communicating to users. For clarification, I didn't intend that post to be "the" announcement; it was mostly my usual rambling about my day to day activities, but the official sprint announcement was for sure meant to go to u-devel-announce@. We just haven't figured out all the details yet; e. g. Steve is talking to the server/Juju teams for participation, we should agree to an IRC channel/pad etc. Please expect an announcement on Monday or Tuesday at the latest. > Having falling victim to "it's so easy to just post on G+" syndrome > just like everyone else, I think we should fix this. > [...] > There was a point in time when ubuntu-devel was too granular; I just > want to kick of a discussion if the pendulum has swung too far to the > other side. Thoughts? Fully agreed. I like G+ for staying in touch, but I consider it a "lossy" medium like IRC. People may read it or not, and it's not the right tool for official announcements -- ubuntu-devel-announce@ is just for that. Thanks for bringing it up, and sorry for the misunderstanding! Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
