Re: Ubiquity not enabling hibernation in 17.04
On 29 June 2017 at 18:54, Nate Graham wrote: > Hello all, > I've recently installed Kubuntu 17.04 on a bunch of machines and noticed > that they all got 2 GB swap files (smaller than their RAM) and hibernation > wasn't enabled. > > I filed a bug > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1699336) and was > told that not enabling hibernation by default was intentional. > > Is there any chance we can revisit that decision? Hibernation is a useful > alternative to suspending, especially given the modern focus on long laptop > battery life. At the time we have disabled, hybernation would fail way too often. There was a very high failure to resume rate, across e.g. 1000 hybernate-resume cycles, on Ubuntu certified laptops in collaboration with OEMs. Currently, the state of the art is the deep suspend state, rather than hybernation states. Thus modern laptops sleep is close to hybernation in many ways, w.r.t. power usage. However, not the security. -- Regards, Dimitri. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: The transition to add support for Python 3.6 is beginning
On Jul 12, 2017, at 07:33 AM, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: >Yeah, it's all good so long as we don't rebuild lazr.delegates thanks to >https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/912 related fun... Too true. :( I haven't yet investigated the suggested linked to that issue, but if you have the time and inclination, you might see if this helps. E.g. is lazr.* using these inconsistently? https://bitbucket.org/ambv/configparser/issues/17/#comment-36669436 Cheers, -Barry pgpxqsBVh9E08.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: The transition to add support for Python 3.6 is beginning
On 30 June 2017 at 03:12, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jun 28, 2017, at 07:22 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > >I want to keep lazr.config in the archive, and I help maintain it both in > >Debian and upstream. > > I'd forgotten that I had released a new upstream version a while ago, and > had > an update sitting in my Debian packaging git repo waiting for the Stretch > release. I just uploaded lazr.config 2.2-1 to unstable so after this winds > its way through the system, it should be all good. > Yeah, it's all good so long as we don't rebuild lazr.delegates thanks to https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/912 related fun... Cheers, mwh -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Server team meeting minutes: 2017-07-11
Hi, here a summary of the weekly IRC Server team meeting held today. == Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 11 Jul at 16:01 — 16:31 UTC * Full logs at [[ http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-07-11-16.01.log.html ]] == Meeting summary == === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === * ''ACTION:'' nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) * Done: dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/232 === Artful Development === * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule * ''LINK:'' https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server * No current high profile bugs mentioned === Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet) === * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server * SRU pending for : percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5 percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6, cups, sssd, open-iscsi, rsyslog, ksh, neutron * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2017-July/007559.html === Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) === * ''LINK:'' https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ * See the status report in the full log === Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) === * 4.11 to arrive soon in Artful * 4.12 (or more) will eventually be the target kernel * discussion about netplan triggered errors in Artful === Upcoming Call For Papers === * ''LINK:'' https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ * ''LINK:'' http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit * ''LINK:'' https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/containers-micro-conference-at-linux-plumbers-2017/262 === Open Discussion === * Daily builds on libvirt and qemu master available * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/+archive/ubuntu/virt-daily-upstream * Discussion on improving the weekly summary by adding SRUs appearing in unapproved -- Christian Ehrhardt Software Engineer, Ubuntu Server Canonical Ltd -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Ubiquity not enabling hibernation in 17.04
On 2017-06-29 19:54, Nate Graham wrote: Hello all, I've recently installed Kubuntu 17.04 on a bunch of machines and noticed that they all got 2 GB swap files (smaller than their RAM) and hibernation wasn't enabled. I filed a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1699336) and was told that not enabling hibernation by default was intentional. Is there any chance we can revisit that decision? Hibernation is a useful alternative to suspending, especially given the modern focus on long laptop battery life. I'd like to mention that we have a page in the Ubuntu desktop guide about how to enable hibernation: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html Not sure if it applies with a swap file instead of a partition. -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Backporting intel-microcode to 16.04 LTS for errata fix
I find the intel-microcode package in Ubuntu 16.04 is heavily outdated (3.20151106.1) leaving many Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake systems vulnerable to incorrect program flow/state due to a processor errata [1]. This seems like sufficient rationale to backport the package (3.20170511.1) from Artful which carries the updated microcode to address the errata. What's the consensus here? [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/06/msg00308.html -- Daniel J Blueman -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Ubiquity not enabling hibernation in 17.04
Hello all, I've recently installed Kubuntu 17.04 on a bunch of machines and noticed that they all got 2 GB swap files (smaller than their RAM) and hibernation wasn't enabled. I filed a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1699336) and was told that not enabling hibernation by default was intentional. Is there any chance we can revisit that decision? Hibernation is a useful alternative to suspending, especially given the modern focus on long laptop battery life. Nate -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: The transition to add support for Python 3.6 is beginning
On Jun 28, 2017, at 07:22 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >I want to keep lazr.config in the archive, and I help maintain it both in >Debian and upstream. I'd forgotten that I had released a new upstream version a while ago, and had an update sitting in my Debian packaging git repo waiting for the Stretch release. I just uploaded lazr.config 2.2-1 to unstable so after this winds its way through the system, it should be all good. Cheers, -Barry pgpR17qGakbsa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: First Ubuntu Artful Aardvark test rebuilds (and upcoming GCC 7 transition)
Hi Matthias, On 07/09/2017 01:57 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: > The first test rebuild of Artful Aardvark was started on July 6 for all > architectures, all components (main component and seeded packages finished, > unseeded packages still building). > Please help fixing the build failures. Is there a way to discover what are the major problems here? I looked at a dozen of ppc64el build failures, and I didn't found a problem that seems to reproduce a more often than others. I remember that on the GCC5 -> GCC6 migration phase, you have created an interesting page with the bugs being triage by failure type. Are you still planning to do so on this migration also? Having a better picture of the most common FTBFS causes would help to create an plan to solve them. Thank you, Breno -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Ubiquity Proposal - Add "minimal" setup with kernel parameter
I'm curious on why you want to remove timezone selection. All the other changes sound great as I would like a better partitioning setup for encrypted machines as I feel the current one is not the best (not sure if my issues are just with our KDE/Qt one or not). On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:47 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Thanks Carl for starting this conversation! I'm forwarding this to > ubuntu-devel for you so that this discussion can reach a wider > audience. > > Thanks, > Jeremy Bicha > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Carl Richell wrote: > > System76 would like to use GNOME Initial Setup for user configuration. > > Currently, there is duplication with Ubiquity. > > > > > > We propose changing Ubiquity to add a “minimal” mode, triggered by a > kernel > > parameter (a flag similar to how OEM install is triggered now). This > enables > > flavors to use whichever version makes sense for them. System76’s Pop!_OS > > and the elementary OS team are interested in using “minimal”. Minimal > might > > be attractive to Ubuntu w/ GNOME as well. > > > > > > “Minimal” will contain the least amount necessary to install the OS. We > also > > prefer off-line installs with minimal which would remove options to > download > > updates or install 3rd party software during install. This requires > adding > > language packs to the iso when using minimal. > > > > > > Minimal screens: > > > > Welcome/Language Select - change: add KB Layout [1] > > > > Installation Type - change: move hostname here [2] > > > > If full disk encryption is chosen, Choose Security Key screen. > > > > --Timezone: we’d like to remove timezone but Ubiquity is crashing when > we do > > so. More investigation is necessary. > > > > > > [1] KB layout currently comes after “Installation Type”. Users can’t set > > their layout before typing a full-disk encryption password. Moving KB > layout > > forward would fix this. However, Ubuntu uses the first Welcome Screen to > > display both language and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu”. A couple of > > ideas: > > > > > > Boot to a live environment with a “Install Ubuntu” icon on the desktop. > > > > For a “complete” Ubiquity install, move KB layout after the Welcome > Screen. > > > > > > [2] Hostname is currently on the “Who are you?” screen. It uses the > username > > and DMI information to populate the hostname. We propose using the same > DMI > > information, adding 4 hexadecimals to the end (a checksum of the MAC > address > > “Galag-Pro-A8F3”), and moving the hostname up to the “Installation Type” > > screen. This enables “minimal” installs to set the hostname and business > > customers can install the OS on multiple machines, with automatic or > custom > > hostnames, then give the computer to their user for account setup. > > > > > > Current Ubiquity “Complete” Screens > > > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party > > checkboxes > > > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption > > > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > > > Timezone > > > > Keyboard Layout > > > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup and hostname > > > > > > Proposed Ubiquity “Complete” Screen > > > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > > > Keyboard Layout > > > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party > > checkboxes > > > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption ADD hostname > > > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > > > Timezone > > > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup REMOVE hostname > > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel > -- Aaron Honeycutt - Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead - Kubuntu Council Member -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Ubiquity Proposal - Add "minimal" setup with kernel parameter
Timezone is taken care of by GNOME Initial Setup. We'd like to remove the duplication. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, at 09:54 AM, Aaron Honeycutt wrote: > I'm curious on why you want to remove timezone selection. All the other > changes sound great as I would like a better partitioning setup for encrypted > machines as I feel the current one is not the best (not sure if my issues are > just with our KDE/Qt one or not).> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:47 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote:>> > Thanks Carl for starting this conversation! I'm forwarding this to >> ubuntu-devel for you so that this discussion can reach a wider >> audience. >> >> Thanks, >> Jeremy Bicha >> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Carl Richell wrote:>> >> > System76 would like to use GNOME Initial Setup for user configuration.>> >> > Currently, there is duplication with Ubiquity. >> > >> > >> > We propose changing Ubiquity to add a “minimal” mode, triggered by a >> kernel>> > parameter (a flag similar to how OEM install is triggered now). >> This enables>> > flavors to use whichever version makes sense for them. >> System76’s Pop!_OS>> > and the elementary OS team are interested in using >> “minimal”. Minimal might>> > be attractive to Ubuntu w/ GNOME as well. >> > >> > >> > “Minimal” will contain the least amount necessary to install the OS. We >> also>> > prefer off-line installs with minimal which would remove options >> to download>> > updates or install 3rd party software during install. This >> requires adding>> > language packs to the iso when using minimal. >> > >> > >> > Minimal screens: >> > >> > Welcome/Language Select - change: add KB Layout [1] >> > >> > Installation Type - change: move hostname here [2] >> > >> > If full disk encryption is chosen, Choose Security Key screen. >> > >> > --Timezone: we’d like to remove timezone but Ubiquity is crashing when we >> do>> > so. More investigation is necessary. >> > >> > >> > [1] KB layout currently comes after “Installation Type”. Users can’t >> set>> > their layout before typing a full-disk encryption password. Moving >> KB layout>> > forward would fix this. However, Ubuntu uses the first >> Welcome Screen to>> > display both language and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install >> Ubuntu”. A couple of>> > ideas: >> > >> > >> > Boot to a live environment with a “Install Ubuntu” icon on the desktop.>> >> > >> > For a “complete” Ubiquity install, move KB layout after the Welcome >> Screen.>> > >> > >> > [2] Hostname is currently on the “Who are you?” screen. It uses the >> username>> > and DMI information to populate the hostname. We propose using >> the same DMI>> > information, adding 4 hexadecimals to the end (a checksum >> of the MAC address>> > “Galag-Pro-A8F3”), and moving the hostname up to the >> “Installation Type”>> > screen. This enables “minimal” installs to set the >> hostname and business>> > customers can install the OS on multiple >> machines, with automatic or custom>> > hostnames, then give the computer to >> their user for account setup.>> > >> > >> > Current Ubiquity “Complete” Screens >> > >> > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” >> > >> > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party>> >> > checkboxes >> > >> > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption >> > >> > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key >> > >> > Timezone >> > >> > Keyboard Layout >> > >> > Who Are You? w/ user account setup and hostname >> > >> > >> > Proposed Ubiquity “Complete” Screen >> > >> > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” >> > >> > Keyboard Layout >> > >> > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party>> >> > checkboxes >> > >> > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption ADD hostname>> >> > >> > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key >> > >> > Timezone >> > >> > Who Are You? w/ user account setup REMOVE hostname >> >> -- >> ubuntu-devel mailing list >> ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel> -- > Aaron Honeycutt > - Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead > - Kubuntu Council Member -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Ubiquity Proposal - Add "minimal" setup with kernel parameter
Correct, the current Ubiquity would remain close to the same with two exceptions: Move KB Layout after the Welcome screen Move the hostname field to the Installation Type screen On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Aaron Honeycutt wrote: > But would this all be to the current minimal version of Ubiquity and not the > main one current? I ask as part of Kubuntu since we don't use the GNOME > setup.> Though I think we have whole another UI setup for our KDE/Qt install > frontend.> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:58 AM Carl Richell wrote:>> __ >> Timezone is taken care of by GNOME Initial Setup. We'd like to remove the >> duplication.>> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, at 09:54 AM, Aaron Honeycutt wrote: >>> I'm curious on why you want to remove timezone selection. All the other >>> changes sound great as I would like a better partitioning setup for >>> encrypted machines as I feel the current one is not the best (not sure if >>> my issues are just with our KDE/Qt one or not).>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:47 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: >>> Thanks Carl for starting this conversation! I'm forwarding this to >>> ubuntu-devel for you so that this discussion can reach a wider audience. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Carl Richell wrote: > System76 would like to use GNOME Initial Setup for user configuration. > Currently, there is duplication with Ubiquity. > > > We propose changing Ubiquity to add a “minimal” mode, triggered by a > kernel > parameter (a flag similar to how OEM install is triggered > now). This enables > flavors to use whichever version makes sense > for them. System76’s Pop!_OS > and the elementary OS team are > interested in using “minimal”. Minimal might > be attractive to > Ubuntu w/ GNOME as well. > > > “Minimal” will contain the least amount necessary to install the OS. We > also > prefer off-line installs with minimal which would remove > options to download > updates or install 3rd party software during > install. This requires adding > language packs to the iso when using > minimal. > > > Minimal screens: > > Welcome/Language Select - change: add KB Layout [1] > > Installation Type - change: move hostname here [2] > > If full disk encryption is chosen, Choose Security Key screen. > > --Timezone: we’d like to remove timezone but Ubiquity is crashing when > we do > so. More investigation is necessary. > > > [1] KB layout currently comes after “Installation Type”. Users can’t > set > their layout before typing a full-disk encryption password. > Moving KB layout > forward would fix this. However, Ubuntu uses the > first Welcome Screen to > display both language and “Try Ubuntu” or > “Install Ubuntu”. A couple of > ideas: > > > Boot to a live environment with a “Install Ubuntu” icon on the > desktop. > > For a “complete” Ubiquity install, move KB layout after the Welcome > Screen. > > > [2] Hostname is currently on the “Who are you?” screen. It uses the > username > and DMI information to populate the hostname. We propose > using the same DMI > information, adding 4 hexadecimals to the end > (a checksum of the MAC address > “Galag-Pro-A8F3”), and moving the > hostname up to the “Installation Type” > screen. This enables > “minimal” installs to set the hostname and business > customers can > install the OS on multiple machines, with automatic or custom > > hostnames, then give the computer to their user for account setup. > > > Current Ubiquity “Complete” Screens > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd > Party > checkboxes > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > Timezone > > Keyboard Layout > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup and hostname > > > Proposed Ubiquity “Complete” Screen > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > Keyboard Layout > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd > Party > checkboxes > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption ADD > hostname > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > Timezone > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup REMOVE hostname -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu
Re: Ubiquity Proposal - Add "minimal" setup with kernel parameter
But would this all be to the current minimal version of Ubiquity and not the main one current? I ask as part of Kubuntu since we don't use the GNOME setup. Though I think we have whole another UI setup for our KDE/Qt install frontend. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:58 AM Carl Richell wrote: > Timezone is taken care of by GNOME Initial Setup. We'd like to remove the > duplication. > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, at 09:54 AM, Aaron Honeycutt wrote: > > I'm curious on why you want to remove timezone selection. All the other > changes sound great as I would like a better partitioning setup for > encrypted machines as I feel the current one is not the best (not sure if > my issues are just with our KDE/Qt one or not). > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:47 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > Thanks Carl for starting this conversation! I'm forwarding this to > ubuntu-devel for you so that this discussion can reach a wider > audience. > > Thanks, > Jeremy Bicha > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Carl Richell wrote: > > System76 would like to use GNOME Initial Setup for user configuration. > > Currently, there is duplication with Ubiquity. > > > > > > We propose changing Ubiquity to add a “minimal” mode, triggered by a > kernel > > parameter (a flag similar to how OEM install is triggered now). This > enables > > flavors to use whichever version makes sense for them. System76’s Pop!_OS > > and the elementary OS team are interested in using “minimal”. Minimal > might > > be attractive to Ubuntu w/ GNOME as well. > > > > > > “Minimal” will contain the least amount necessary to install the OS. We > also > > prefer off-line installs with minimal which would remove options to > download > > updates or install 3rd party software during install. This requires > adding > > language packs to the iso when using minimal. > > > > > > Minimal screens: > > > > Welcome/Language Select - change: add KB Layout [1] > > > > Installation Type - change: move hostname here [2] > > > > If full disk encryption is chosen, Choose Security Key screen. > > > > --Timezone: we’d like to remove timezone but Ubiquity is crashing when > we do > > so. More investigation is necessary. > > > > > > [1] KB layout currently comes after “Installation Type”. Users can’t set > > their layout before typing a full-disk encryption password. Moving KB > layout > > forward would fix this. However, Ubuntu uses the first Welcome Screen to > > display both language and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu”. A couple of > > ideas: > > > > > > Boot to a live environment with a “Install Ubuntu” icon on the desktop. > > > > For a “complete” Ubiquity install, move KB layout after the Welcome > Screen. > > > > > > [2] Hostname is currently on the “Who are you?” screen. It uses the > username > > and DMI information to populate the hostname. We propose using the same > DMI > > information, adding 4 hexadecimals to the end (a checksum of the MAC > address > > “Galag-Pro-A8F3”), and moving the hostname up to the “Installation Type” > > screen. This enables “minimal” installs to set the hostname and business > > customers can install the OS on multiple machines, with automatic or > custom > > hostnames, then give the computer to their user for account setup. > > > > > > Current Ubiquity “Complete” Screens > > > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party > > checkboxes > > > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption > > > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > > > Timezone > > > > Keyboard Layout > > > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup and hostname > > > > > > Proposed Ubiquity “Complete” Screen > > > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > > > Keyboard Layout > > > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party > > checkboxes > > > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption ADD hostname > > > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > > > Timezone > > > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup REMOVE hostname > > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel > > -- > > Aaron Honeycutt > - Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead > - Kubuntu Council Member > > > -- Aaron Honeycutt - Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead - Kubuntu Council Member -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Ubiquity Proposal - Add "minimal" setup with kernel parameter
Thanks Carl for starting this conversation! I'm forwarding this to ubuntu-devel for you so that this discussion can reach a wider audience. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Carl Richell wrote: > System76 would like to use GNOME Initial Setup for user configuration. > Currently, there is duplication with Ubiquity. > > > We propose changing Ubiquity to add a “minimal” mode, triggered by a kernel > parameter (a flag similar to how OEM install is triggered now). This enables > flavors to use whichever version makes sense for them. System76’s Pop!_OS > and the elementary OS team are interested in using “minimal”. Minimal might > be attractive to Ubuntu w/ GNOME as well. > > > “Minimal” will contain the least amount necessary to install the OS. We also > prefer off-line installs with minimal which would remove options to download > updates or install 3rd party software during install. This requires adding > language packs to the iso when using minimal. > > > Minimal screens: > > Welcome/Language Select - change: add KB Layout [1] > > Installation Type - change: move hostname here [2] > > If full disk encryption is chosen, Choose Security Key screen. > > --Timezone: we’d like to remove timezone but Ubiquity is crashing when we do > so. More investigation is necessary. > > > [1] KB layout currently comes after “Installation Type”. Users can’t set > their layout before typing a full-disk encryption password. Moving KB layout > forward would fix this. However, Ubuntu uses the first Welcome Screen to > display both language and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu”. A couple of > ideas: > > > Boot to a live environment with a “Install Ubuntu” icon on the desktop. > > For a “complete” Ubiquity install, move KB layout after the Welcome Screen. > > > [2] Hostname is currently on the “Who are you?” screen. It uses the username > and DMI information to populate the hostname. We propose using the same DMI > information, adding 4 hexadecimals to the end (a checksum of the MAC address > “Galag-Pro-A8F3”), and moving the hostname up to the “Installation Type” > screen. This enables “minimal” installs to set the hostname and business > customers can install the OS on multiple machines, with automatic or custom > hostnames, then give the computer to their user for account setup. > > > Current Ubiquity “Complete” Screens > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party > checkboxes > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > Timezone > > Keyboard Layout > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup and hostname > > > Proposed Ubiquity “Complete” Screen > > Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu” > > Keyboard Layout > > Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party > checkboxes > > Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption ADD hostname > > If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key > > Timezone > > Who Are You? w/ user account setup REMOVE hostname -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
