Re: help with sbuild dep8 failures on i386/bionic

2018-12-01 Thread Andreas Hasenack
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 7:54 PM Colin Watson  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 05:04:35PM -0200, Andreas Hasenack wrote:
> > The test basically uses sbuild to build procenv on the current devel
> > version of ubuntu. Today, that's disco. At the end of the build, it
> > tries to install the built package on the host, and this is the first
> > red flag.
>
> I guess this should either build on the host series, or else it should
> create a new temporary schroot and install the built package in that for
> testing.

And the fact that it is building in the devel series is another source
of failures, because debootsrap in bionic doesn't know about disco
yet, it's another SRU stuck in proposed.


> > That is why it's failing on i386:
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >  procenv : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.28) but 2.27-3ubuntu1 is to be installed
> > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> >
> > bionic has libc6 2.27, disco has libc6 2.28. So the above error makes sense.
> >
> > But in the amd64 build, this does not happen. The built package has
> > this Depends line:
> >  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libnuma1 (>= 2.0.11),
> > libselinux1 (>= 1.32)
> >
> >
> > How?? Going up in the dep8 logs even shows that it used libc6-dev-2.28
> > in the sbuild :)
>
> The libc6 dependency that a binary package gains when built isn't
> necessarily the same as the libc6-dev version that was installed when it
> was built.  The major point of symbols files is to allow library
> dependencies to be weaker when the binary doesn't actually need a newer
> version of the library, checking on a symbol-by-symbol basis.
>
> Presumably some quirk of the architecture-specific code for i386 in libc
> means that procenv ends up needing 2.28 on that architecture; for
> instance, this might happen if the implementation of a syscall wrapper
> changed on i386 in such a way as to cause binaries built using 2.28
> headers to require a newer libc at runtime.  This sort of thing is in
> fact not all that uncommon, particularly given the large amount of
> architecture-specific code in libc.
>
> You could probably narrow down exactly what symbols are involved by
> doing "objdump -wT" on the built i386 procenv binary and looking for
> GLIBC_2.28 symbols, although it probably isn't necessary to track that
> down since it's clear that the test is buggy: building a package on a
> newer series and trying to install it on an older one isn't something
> that can be guaranteed even if it often works.

Thanks, I'll make an MP to fix the test.

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No localization available for Thunderbird Lightning (open bug since early 2010!)

2018-12-01 Thread Rolando Gorgs
Hello together,

this is my first mail on this list because I don't want to escalate 'small'
things that could better be solved within launchpad, but I really think
this very long lasting bug should be brought to your attention:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/545778

Since I remember the localization of Lightning - the Thunderbird Calendar -
in Ubuntu is broken (better to say: not present). In Ubuntu wikis all over
the world the recommended (dirty) workaround has ever been to avoid the
official xul-ext-lightning package and instead install Lightning via
Thunderbird Addon functionality.

This workaround often caused problems in the past because the Lightning
versions provided by Thunderbird Addons and the installed Thunderbird from
ubuntu packages didn't fit together.

Some months ago the Thunderbird people finally decided to distribute
lightning (and its localization) as integrated part of their official
downloadable thunderbird install package. Because of this they stopped the
distribution of separate lightning packages via Addons.

At this time there is no practical way to have Thunderbird + Lightning
completely translated in Ubuntu! The thunderbird localization of ubuntu
doesn't include lightning translation and xul-ext-lightning has no
localization too. The only way to get a working and localized Lightning is
to download the official Thunderbird package from www.thunderbird.net,
extract the installer and copy the included (translated) lightning addon
into the right sub folder of your own thunderbird. (And those steps have to
be repeated manually for every new Thunderbird/Lightning version!)

Please (PLEASE) find a solution for this. The bugreport I linked above is
nearly nine years old but the problem itself exists even longer. I don't
see any progress here and I think this is due to misunderstanding and
confusion where the localization of lightning has to take place. In my
opinion the best solution would be to integrate lightning completely into
the ubuntu thunderbird package as the Thunderbird people did and then
provide the translation as part of thunderbird localization. But I'm
neither developer nor package maintainer. Perhaps a separate
xul-ext-lightning + separate localization is the better way. But please do
something! :-)

Thanks for time and your attention!

Golando Gorgs
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