Re: default LLVM change

2022-03-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 09:50:42AM -0300, Andreas Hasenack wrote:
> I was going over fixing the postgresql FTBFS[1] reported[2] in this
> list a few days ago, and saw that the failure was due to postgresql
> not yet supporting llvm-14. Current jammy build was using llvm-13.

> Ok, so looks like llvm-defaults changed from 13 to 14 with
> 0.51ubuntu1[3] on March 12th (wasn't that after FF?)

Yes, it's after FF.  We know that LLVM releases always land late wrt our
release schedule.  This was called out on
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906 - no
explicit FFe, just a known part of our toolchain updates.

> Christian found a patchset, which I applied and uploaded, but to my
> surprise llvm-14, even though it's the default in jammy, is in
> universe[4]. UPDATE: was in universe, looks like Doko just moved it
> into main a few hours ago.

> The end results now, with the above update, is that we will have
> postgresql-14 switching from llvm13 to llvm14 one day before beta
> freeze. Release team, should I revert the postgresql change and adjust
> build-depends so it picks llvm-13?

I think you should proceed with the LLVM 14 build.  There's time still for
any regressions to be found and fixed.

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default LLVM change

2022-03-27 Thread Andreas Hasenack
Hi,

I was going over fixing the postgresql FTBFS[1] reported[2] in this
list a few days ago, and saw that the failure was due to postgresql
not yet supporting llvm-14. Current jammy build was using llvm-13.

Ok, so looks like llvm-defaults changed from 13 to 14 with
0.51ubuntu1[3] on March 12th (wasn't that after FF?)

Christian found a patchset, which I applied and uploaded, but to my
surprise llvm-14, even though it's the default in jammy, is in
universe[4]. UPDATE: was in universe, looks like Doko just moved it
into main a few hours ago.

The end results now, with the above update, is that we will have
postgresql-14 switching from llvm13 to llvm14 one day before beta
freeze. Release team, should I revert the postgresql change and adjust
build-depends so it picks llvm-13?


1. 
https://people.canonical.com/~ginggs/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20220317-jammy-jammy.html
2. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-March/041957.html
3. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-defaults/0.54ubuntu1
4. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-14

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio: We're out of space

2022-03-27 Thread Ross Gammon

Hi Erich,

On 25.03.2022 00.22, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

With that, we've got the two most active people working on Ubuntu Studio
(myself and Len) who are onboard with the USB media idea. USB media is much
cheaper than it used to be, and more readily available than DVD-/+Rs. I'm OK
with increasing the size. We'll edit the ubuntustudio.org website to specify
that they may want to use a USB stick.



As a very inactive team member, I just wanted to add for the record that 
this sounds fine. In order to test the DVD, I was having to plug in a 
USB DVD read/writer to most of my machines anyway. The biggest issue is 
always having to unplug a USB device, to plug in the USB with the test 
ISO :-)


I am slowly starting to get used to having to use kde based tools/apps 
instead of X/gnome based tools. It is a pain many times, but sometimes 
better.


Keep up the good work.

Ross


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