Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 08:44:21AM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: > > Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir > > Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug > list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. The bug would be opened on the source package of whatever package you're trying to promote to main. If the package is in universe, that's pretty easy, visit the package page for it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAMEHERE and click 'Report a bug'. Hopefully then the github piece will make more sense. If the package isn't actually in Ubuntu yet, it'll take more work. If you get the package into Debian unstable, it'll automatically be imported into Ubuntu universe by a syncing robot. > I also think the process isn't worth and my request would be closed > immediately. My arguments for the package is easy. It is still in Debian > which is a quality fact by itself. So take it from there. Isn't Ubuntu > itself "based on Debian"? What does this technically mean? You just copy > some packages from a Debian repo? There's nothing that says your request would be closed immediately, but there's no denying that it would take more work. Promoting packages to main requires a team bug subscriber: you'd want to talk to whichever team would make most sense to maintain the package and discuss why it'd make sense. Why specifically main? What's wrong with universe? Thanks signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Dropping /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix and /usr/share/zoneinfo/right from tzdata
On Mon, 2023-01-09 at 19:01 +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The tzdata package ships /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/ (for Coordinated > Universal Time) and /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/ (for International Atomic > Time). The files in /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/ are identical to their > counterpart in /usr/share/zoneinfo/. The tzdata package converts the > configured posix/* and right/* timezones to their unprefixed variant on > every package upgrade (e.g. it changes "posix/Europe/Berlin" to > "Europe/Berlin"). > > Is there anybody actually using /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix or > /usr/share/zoneinfo/right? Debian bug #498171 indicates that there might be users. > Aurelien and I assume that probably nobody is using them. We plan to > drop both directories. If nobody speaks up, I will remove them in the > coming weeks from the Ubuntu tzdata package prior to the feature freeze. > After the Debian 12 "bookworm" release, we will remove it from Debian. I changed my opinion: Instead of dropping right/* move these files into a separate binary package tzdata-right which will not be installed by default. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Dropping /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix and /usr/share/zoneinfo/right from tzdata
On Tue, 2023-01-10 at 10:15 +, Robie Basak wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 07:01:05PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > Aurelien and I assume that probably nobody is using them. We plan to > > drop both directories. If nobody speaks up, I will remove them in the > > coming weeks from the Ubuntu tzdata package prior to the feature freeze. > > After the Debian 12 "bookworm" release, we will remove it from Debian. > > I have no particular opinion on this specific change, as I'm not > familiar in this area. One request though: we have a special SRU > procedure for tzdata here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#tzdata. Please could you > ensure and test that this process will still work reasonably, avoiding > the accidental removal of this feature from stable releases? > > It sounds like it might be fine without needing to do anything special, > but I thought it important to mention and test in the case of tzdata > specifically because it is a special case. I am fully aware of the SRU procedure for tzdata. This change should only be implemented for Ubuntu >= 23.04 and not backported to the stable releases. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Setting NotAutomatic for hirsute+1-proposed
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 01:44:12PM +0100, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > On 2021-01-21 11:20, Robie Basak wrote: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed will need a rework > > though. We link to that from every SRU bug. > That page was last updated on 2020-06-19, and is obsolete. Would be great i > someone could follow up the change and edit the Testing/EnableProposed page > so it makes sense again. Have you run into problems with the instructions on that page? I skimmed it and aside from mentioning "Selective upgrading from -proposed" which is redundant for newer releases, I don't immediately see anything incorrect there. If you can point out where it's wrong, I'll happily edit it to correct it but I don't have time just now to run through the full instructions there to find out what doesn't work. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On 2023-01-20 09:44, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. I assume I misunderstand something. At this point I assume the same. Please note that "main" in Ubuntu is not the same as "main" in Debian. "main" + "universe" makes (approximately) up Debian's "main". So unless you have a reason to ask that Canonical takes responsibility for the maintenance, "universe" is probably right for whatever package you are talking about. It's probably there already, isn't it? -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 07:21:17PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > I think there is a misunderstanding here, but it clear to me exactly It *isn't* clear to me I mean. Sorry! -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 08:44:21AM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > I assume I misunderstand something. I think there is a misunderstanding here, but it clear to me exactly what you want or why you want it. Could you expand on that please, and then maybe we'll be able to help you without misunderstanding? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:25 AM wrote: > Dear Gunnar, > > thanks for the reply. I thought "MIR" was a past (dead) x server > replacement from Canonical. ;) > MIR is not Mir (https://mir-server.io/) Also Mir's death has been greatly exaggerated :) - Daniel > > Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: > > Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir > > Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug > list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. > > I assume I misunderstand something. > > I also think the process isn't worth and my request would be closed > immediately. My arguments for the package is easy. It is still in Debian > which is a quality fact by itself. So take it from there. Isn't Ubuntu > itself "based on Debian"? What does this technically mean? You just copy > some packages from a Debian repo? > > Kind > Christian > > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel > -- - Daniel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Ruby 3.1 transition
Hi everyone, I'd like to let you know that next week I'll be starting the ruby 3.1 transition as it was planned in the beginning of the cycle [1]. The transition was done in Debian already and I do not expect any blocker, we might need to remove some packages but I'll let AAs know if it is necessary. Any feedback is welcome :) [1] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/lunar-lobster-release-schedule/27284 -- Lucas Kanashiro -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
Dear Gunnar, thanks for the reply. I thought "MIR" was a past (dead) x server replacement from Canonical. ;) Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. I assume I misunderstand something. I also think the process isn't worth and my request would be closed immediately. My arguments for the package is easy. It is still in Debian which is a quality fact by itself. So take it from there. Isn't Ubuntu itself "based on Debian"? What does this technically mean? You just copy some packages from a Debian repo? Kind Christian -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
