Cross Distribution sync on ARM issues session at Linaro connect
Hi everyone, After a break, we are again having a cross distribution collaboration session[1]. The event is on wednesday 12.10pm PST (aka 19.10 UTC). The session will be broadcast on google hangouts[2] for remote participation. If you have any great ideas you think other ARM distributions would benefit as well, wish to see something standardized, or have some gripes about supporting ARM - now is your chance to get heard. If you can't make it on wednesday (or just want to start discussing already!), feel free to email the cross-distro mailing listing and I can get it added to the agenda anyways. Riku [1] http://lcu-13.zerista.com/event/member/85125 [2] https://plus.google.com/events/c73vv18k4b74g8ku7frnp31h4jc?partnerid=gplp0eto -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Proposing a New App Developer Upload Process
On 5 September 2012 06:39, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: How many solitaire games do we need? I'm not sure, but I'm confident it's fewer than one finds in whatever Android Marketplace is called now. Historically, Linux distros have included a curated collection, some larger, some smaller, of relevant applications, libraries, etc that can be used on the base operating system. That curation process is one of the real strengths of Linux distributions and I think Oh, let's have a bazillion of everything because it's there is the wrong way to go. That's a bit Stockholm Syndromish - the collection is only curated for packaging quality, not the quality of the application itself or the amount of overlapping applications. Observe the ~20 solitaire game packages in Ubuntu not to mention the amount of window managers etc. The curation process is not to have less or better apps, it is a necessity since Debian packaging is complex and any package could ruin users install (postinst scripts run as root!). The extras process should not be about having gazillion apps like android but rather having upstreams upload their apps themself like they do on android. The key end user story it provides is getting new versions of applications when the new application is released rather than when the whole distro is upgraded. Right now, precise users can't easily install gimp 2.8 or chromium 21. The secondary advantage is that Ubuntu can concentrate in core distro and leave applications to 3rd parties. These goals can only be reached if the 3rd party uploaded applications are insulated so well that the review process can be done mostly automatically - else the reviewers will continue to be the bottleneck. Riku -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: libjpeg8c vs libjpeg-turbo with libjpeg8 compat on
On 27 October 2011 12:38, Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com wrote: I doubt that Ubuntu will reconsider this for Precise, but I see that you did schedule a session for UDS/Connect [1]. It would be good, if you could provide relevant information for the session: - performance data from your wiki in a precise/12.04 environment, not just for arm, but for all supported Ubuntu architectures. Performance data from a natty environment doesn't really help. How does this compare to a libjpeg8 targeted to newer CPUs? Such a library could be used via hwcap. Fedora switched to libjpeg-turbo and reports in their release notes: The libjpeg library has been replaced by libjpeg-turbo library which has same API/ABI but is at least twice faster on all primary architectures and about 25% faster on secondary architectures. - A test rebuild for packages build-depending on libjpeg*-dev. Not sure if this will catch all issues, but it's a start. That should give an estimate for sourceful and sourceless changes needed, and for which packages you'll have to maintain a delta compared to Debian. Since libjpeg-turbo is API/ABI compatible, it would not even require a rebuild. This makes the transition actually smoother than the transition to libjpeg8 fork of the original libjpeg. Riku -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
ARM porting Jam today 14:00 - 18:00 UTC
Dear ARM fans, Linaro Developer Platform team organises every week (Wednesday 14:00 - 18:00 UTC) an ARM porting Jam. The idea is to gather all developers together to fix userspace portability issues across the board. The list of bugs being worked on is at launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-porting-queueorderby;=-id Interested in making the software in Ubuntu run better on ARM? Join us on the #linaro channel on irc.linaro.org (aka freenode) today! Cheers, Riku -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
ARM Porting Jam today (14:00 - 18:00 UTC)
Dear ARM fans, Linaro Developer Platform team organises every week (Wednesday 14:00 - 18:00 UTC) an ARM porting Jam. The idea is to gather all developers together to fix userspace portability issues across the board. The list of bugs being worked on is at launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-porting-queueorderby;=-id Interested in making the software in Ubuntu run better on ARM? Join us on the #linaro channel on irc.linaro.org (aka freenode) today! Cheers, Riku -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
ARM Porting Jam today (14:00 - 18:00 UTC)
Dear ARM fans, Linaro Developer Platform team organises every week (Wednesday 14:00 - 18:00 UTC) an ARM porting Jam. The idea is to gather all developers together to fix userspace portability issues across the board. The list of bugs being worked on is at launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-porting-queueorderby;=-id Interested in making the software in Ubuntu run better on ARM? Join us on the #linaro channel on irc.linaro.org today! Cheers, Riku -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
ARM porting Jam *today* 14:00 - 18:00 UTC)
Hi fellow ARM fans, Linaro Developer Platform team organises every week (Wednesday 14:00 - 18:00 UTC) an ARM porting Jam. The idea is to gather all developers together to fix userspace portability issues across the board. The list of bugs being worked on is at launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arm-porting-queueorderby=-id Interested in making the software in Ubuntu run better on ARM? Join us on the #linaro channel on irc.linaro.org today! Cheers, Riku -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel