Re: move to deb822 sources in ubuntu:lunar docker image
Hi Julian, On 12.01.23 17:54, Julian Andres Klode wrote: (resend with proper subject, sigh, mutt mishaps) As part of deb822 sources file enablement, the specification states a MVP for 23.04 to move sources.list to sources.list.d/ ubuntu.sources (in deb822 format obviously) inside Docker images. While we're still porting aptsources to support those, I think we can go ahead and do that now, we don't ship python-apt in docker images anyway, and software-properties is really the only thing broken by that change afaict. For comparison, we had debian:unstable using a sources.list.d/debian.sources for months now and it's stable. So I'd ask tianon to turn the switch next week if nobody has strong objections. What switch is that that Tianon can turn?. the tarballs to create the ubuntu:* OCI base images are built with livecd-rootfs/live-build. The whole process to create the images in under the control of the ROCKs team (and previously the CPC team). So my understanding is, that we would need to adjust live-build and/or livecd-rootfs to use the deb822 format. And if we do that, would we also need to adjust launchpad-buildd to handle the new format, too? Best, Tom -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Enabling Connectivity Checking in NetworkManager
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:41 -0400, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote: I'd like to enable connectivity checking in NetworkManager. We'd use http://start.ubuntu.com/connectivity-check.html, running the check every 5 minutes starting from the connection being established. start.ubuntu.com has already been in use for a while to verify connectivity from the installer, IIRC. http://start.ubuntu.com/connectivity-check.html should set the header X-NetworkManager-Status. That's what NM checks first [1]. Then you don't need response=Lorem ipsum in the [connectivity] section. Cheers, Tom [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/src/nm-connectivity.c#n104 -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Enabling Connectivity Checking in NetworkManager
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 06:08 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre [2012-07-10 14:41 -0400]: I'd like to enable connectivity checking in NetworkManager. We'd use http://start.ubuntu.com/connectivity-check.html, running the check every 5 minutes starting from the connection being established. start.ubuntu.com has already been in use for a while to verify connectivity from the installer, IIRC. That seems rather overzealous to me. Why does it need to re-check so often, even after it knows that it is connected to the real world out there? because the connection can die. e.g. you use you smartphone as wlan hotspot and the internet connection of the smartphone dies. It could stop polling until the connection state changes then. if you don't poll, you never know if the connection state changed. Several million users pinging the same site every 5 minutes has both privacy issues as well as significantly increasing the traffic to start.u.c. as well. maybe we should increase the period when a connection is available (20 minutes?) and decrease the period (10 seconds?) when the connection is unavailable. At the same time, 5 minutes is much too long when you use it for some desktop application. After registering in the portal etc. you do not want to twiddle your thumbs for 5 minutes until your application is finally convinced that it can go on using the interweb now. It seems to me that this check would be more appropriate as a D-BUS method. It sure needs to be handled async by the application and can take a few seconds, but it avoids the 5 minute delay, the constant hammering as well as the user count issues? imho we need both - a dbus method and the possibility for a periodic check. Cheers, Tom -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
systemd for 11.10 ?
Hi, i just want to know if there are any plans to replace upstart[1] with systemd[2] for 11.10? Cheers, Tom [1] http://upstart.at/ [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
