Re: Deprecation notice for mail-stack-delivery (dovecot) - planned to be dropped in 18.10

2018-05-12 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
I installed by hand, but am very interested in upping the number
of people using self-hosted email, so interested in helping with
that.

-serge

Quoting Phillip Susi (ps...@ubuntu.com):
> Last year I got fed up with gmail randomly deleting one of the
> "duplicate" messages I would get via a mailing list as well as being
> Cc'd on, so I registered my own domain and set up mail-stack-delivery on
> a $5/month vps with Amazon lightsail.  I guess I'll need to take a
> closer look at what this package actually does and see if I can help fix
> any problems with it.
> 
> On 3/20/2018 10:08 AM, Christian Ehrhardt wrote:
> > Hello,
> > since Ubuntu 18.04 has reached feature freeze we started to think about
> > 18.10.
> > One of the changes ahead is the dropping of the mail-stack-delivery package
> > (part of dovecot).
> > 
> > This package was created a long time ago with the intend to simplify
> > several steps of a mail server setup, for example to get a safe ssl secured
> > default installation.
> > It is essentially almost only a postinst to set up some better defaults.
> > 
> > But the bit that I can derive from bug reports and such indicates that it
> > is almost unused these days and has become an unused maintenance debt (it
> > started to show it's age - no more matching e.g. recommended ciphers).
> > 
> > Furthermore the world has moved on:
> > - For encryption ssl is now default in dovecot-core
> > - In general the hosting your own mail service has become less attractive
> > - If users want to set up a mail server still they often look more for e.g.
> > for Mail-in-a-box [1]
> > 
> > For all of these reasons we intend to drop the mail-stack-delivery package
> > in 18.10
> > 
> > If there is a big love/consumption of the package we might have missed
> > please speak up.
> > In that case we likely want to drop it from dovecot still, but community
> > could take over maintenance in a separate package that lives in universe.
> > 
> > [1]: https://mailinabox.email/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 




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Re: Deprecation notice for mail-stack-delivery (dovecot) - planned to be dropped in 18.10

2018-05-11 Thread Phillip Susi
Last year I got fed up with gmail randomly deleting one of the
"duplicate" messages I would get via a mailing list as well as being
Cc'd on, so I registered my own domain and set up mail-stack-delivery on
a $5/month vps with Amazon lightsail.  I guess I'll need to take a
closer look at what this package actually does and see if I can help fix
any problems with it.

On 3/20/2018 10:08 AM, Christian Ehrhardt wrote:
> Hello,
> since Ubuntu 18.04 has reached feature freeze we started to think about
> 18.10.
> One of the changes ahead is the dropping of the mail-stack-delivery package
> (part of dovecot).
> 
> This package was created a long time ago with the intend to simplify
> several steps of a mail server setup, for example to get a safe ssl secured
> default installation.
> It is essentially almost only a postinst to set up some better defaults.
> 
> But the bit that I can derive from bug reports and such indicates that it
> is almost unused these days and has become an unused maintenance debt (it
> started to show it's age - no more matching e.g. recommended ciphers).
> 
> Furthermore the world has moved on:
> - For encryption ssl is now default in dovecot-core
> - In general the hosting your own mail service has become less attractive
> - If users want to set up a mail server still they often look more for e.g.
> for Mail-in-a-box [1]
> 
> For all of these reasons we intend to drop the mail-stack-delivery package
> in 18.10
> 
> If there is a big love/consumption of the package we might have missed
> please speak up.
> In that case we likely want to drop it from dovecot still, but community
> could take over maintenance in a separate package that lives in universe.
> 
> [1]: https://mailinabox.email/
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Deprecation notice for mail-stack-delivery (dovecot) - planned to be dropped in 18.10

2018-03-20 Thread Christian Ehrhardt
Hello,
since Ubuntu 18.04 has reached feature freeze we started to think about
18.10.
One of the changes ahead is the dropping of the mail-stack-delivery package
(part of dovecot).

This package was created a long time ago with the intend to simplify
several steps of a mail server setup, for example to get a safe ssl secured
default installation.
It is essentially almost only a postinst to set up some better defaults.

But the bit that I can derive from bug reports and such indicates that it
is almost unused these days and has become an unused maintenance debt (it
started to show it's age - no more matching e.g. recommended ciphers).

Furthermore the world has moved on:
- For encryption ssl is now default in dovecot-core
- In general the hosting your own mail service has become less attractive
- If users want to set up a mail server still they often look more for e.g.
for Mail-in-a-box [1]

For all of these reasons we intend to drop the mail-stack-delivery package
in 18.10

If there is a big love/consumption of the package we might have missed
please speak up.
In that case we likely want to drop it from dovecot still, but community
could take over maintenance in a separate package that lives in universe.

[1]: https://mailinabox.email/


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