Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 17:05, wrote: > > Hello, > > I checked the wiki and docu but couldn't find that process described > somewhere. > > Is there a ticket system where I can open a wishlist-bug or something > else to ask for introducing a new package into the "main" repository? > > "universe", launchpad or privat ppa are not an option because the > package is still there. I've read the whole thread, and I just want to reiterate - all default ubuntu installations enable main, restricted, universe and multiverse components of an Ubuntu Series, including release, security and updates pockets (e.g. jammy jammy-security jammy-updates). All of these are considered to be part of a given Ubuntu distribution release. A package is available to be installed by default, if it exists in any of those places. The distinction between the various locations are in the grand scheme of things fairly minor, and are policy driven. There can be specific cases and instances where things are missplaced, or have been removed and reintroduced. If you have specific packages and examples of things unavailable, please point them out for further investigation. Removal and reintroduction often happens when a package fails to be compatible with a given Ubuntu release, in the specified timeframe due to timed releases. But these are exceptions rather than the norm. -- okurrr, Dimitri -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
Dear Seth, thanks for your reply. On 2023-01-21 02:40 Seth Arnold wrote: > The bug would be opened on the source package of whatever package > you're trying to promote to main. Ah! That's the key info missing in my head. > If the package is in universe, > that's pretty easy, visit the package page for it: So would you say that universe and main is something like a stage/stair? Beside of exceptional cases you have to be in universe before gettin into "main"? > If the package isn't actually in Ubuntu yet, it'll take more work. If > you get the package into Debian unstable, it'll automatically be > imported into Ubuntu universe by a syncing robot. That was also new to me that it happens that kind of automatic. I like that. I totally misunderstood universe. I thought it was community driven. I mean "Ubuntu fans" doing the packaging there. > Why specifically main? What's wrong with universe? This wish came from my wrong picture of universe I think. Thanks a lot for broadening my horizons. ;) Kind Christian -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 08:44:21AM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: > > Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir > > Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug > list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. The bug would be opened on the source package of whatever package you're trying to promote to main. If the package is in universe, that's pretty easy, visit the package page for it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAMEHERE and click 'Report a bug'. Hopefully then the github piece will make more sense. If the package isn't actually in Ubuntu yet, it'll take more work. If you get the package into Debian unstable, it'll automatically be imported into Ubuntu universe by a syncing robot. > I also think the process isn't worth and my request would be closed > immediately. My arguments for the package is easy. It is still in Debian > which is a quality fact by itself. So take it from there. Isn't Ubuntu > itself "based on Debian"? What does this technically mean? You just copy > some packages from a Debian repo? There's nothing that says your request would be closed immediately, but there's no denying that it would take more work. Promoting packages to main requires a team bug subscriber: you'd want to talk to whichever team would make most sense to maintain the package and discuss why it'd make sense. Why specifically main? What's wrong with universe? Thanks signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On 2023-01-20 09:44, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. I assume I misunderstand something. At this point I assume the same. Please note that "main" in Ubuntu is not the same as "main" in Debian. "main" + "universe" makes (approximately) up Debian's "main". So unless you have a reason to ask that Canonical takes responsibility for the maintenance, "universe" is probably right for whatever package you are talking about. It's probably there already, isn't it? -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 07:21:17PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > I think there is a misunderstanding here, but it clear to me exactly It *isn't* clear to me I mean. Sorry! -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 08:44:21AM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > I assume I misunderstand something. I think there is a misunderstanding here, but it clear to me exactly what you want or why you want it. Could you expand on that please, and then maybe we'll be able to help you without misunderstanding? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:25 AM wrote: > Dear Gunnar, > > thanks for the reply. I thought "MIR" was a past (dead) x server > replacement from Canonical. ;) > MIR is not Mir (https://mir-server.io/) Also Mir's death has been greatly exaggerated :) - Daniel > > Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: > > Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir > > Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug > list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. > > I assume I misunderstand something. > > I also think the process isn't worth and my request would be closed > immediately. My arguments for the package is easy. It is still in Debian > which is a quality fact by itself. So take it from there. Isn't Ubuntu > itself "based on Debian"? What does this technically mean? You just copy > some packages from a Debian repo? > > Kind > Christian > > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel > -- - Daniel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
Dear Gunnar, thanks for the reply. I thought "MIR" was a past (dead) x server replacement from Canonical. ;) Am 19.01.2023 18:17 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir Nice process. It is not clear for me how do I open a bug report. The bug list on launchpad is closed. There is no "new bug report" item. I assume I misunderstand something. I also think the process isn't worth and my request would be closed immediately. My arguments for the package is easy. It is still in Debian which is a quality fact by itself. So take it from there. Isn't Ubuntu itself "based on Debian"? What does this technically mean? You just copy some packages from a Debian repo? Kind Christian -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
Pls see https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir -- Cheers, Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
How to ask for introducing a new package into main?
Hello, I checked the wiki and docu but couldn't find that process described somewhere. Is there a ticket system where I can open a wishlist-bug or something else to ask for introducing a new package into the "main" repository? "universe", launchpad or privat ppa are not an option because the package is still there. Kind Christian Buhtz -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
