Re: Pairing new patch pilots with old patch pilots
On 07/07/2011 12:46 PM, Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello Bryce, Am 06.07.2011 21:12, schrieb Bryce Harrington: I like the idea very much. With the Packaging Training classes [1] we are always looking for people who are willing to talk 10-15 minutes about a topic and answer just a few questions about it. Who would be willing to give a session like that? If it were possible to record (and then post-process/edit into a publicly viewable movie) the terminal session(s) of such a 4 hour shift as done by pitti, cjwatson or other very productive sponsors it would be a much more valuable learning tool than all of the wiki pages we have ATM on the subject IMO. The tutorials and packaging classes usually give a generic overview and work on a simple package which is a good way to get started, whereas a broad coverage of a dozen or more packages in such a sponsoring session surely touch some corner cases and show off existing tools and new ways to use and combine them even for more experienced developers. Jani -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Pairing new patch pilots with old patch pilots
Hello everybody, at UDS the question came up if we could double up new and old pilots to effectively train new patch pilots and make it easier for new pilots to get involved. What do you think about this? Especially as a new pilot/reviewer, what was your experience like? If this is deemed helpful, what would a good process/format for this be? Thanks for your feedback. Have a great day, Daniel -- Ubuntu Developer Week: 11th-15th July 2011 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Pairing new patch pilots with old patch pilots
On 7 July 2011 05:12, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:40:34PM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello everybody, at UDS the question came up if we could double up new and old pilots to effectively train new patch pilots and make it easier for new pilots to get involved. What do you think about this? Especially as a new pilot/reviewer, what was your experience like? Aside from your write-up I don't recall having many other questions. But I'd been doing sponsoring for a while before that. Mostly it is knowing how to do packaging. When I first started at Canonical I recall you ran a packaging class at one of the sprints which I found to be very helpful. 90% of piloting is easy; the other 10% is weird packaging corner cases. Perhaps some sort of packaging challenges class or something would be useful? It's worth remembering that (at least as I define it), it's not the patch pilot's job to necessarily personally review every single change; they just need to make sure some action happens on it. That could be giving a review that's not definitive but gives some feedback, or it could be asking for a review from someone more experienced, or asking them how they'd handle it. Almost any action is better than just leaving things sit in the queue. If this is deemed helpful, what would a good process/format for this be? It probably doesn't need much process. If this is your first time patch piloting, you may feel more comfortable being a co-pilot your first few runs. Find a pilot in your timezone and reschedule your time to coincide with theirs. Beyond that, I'd say encourage new pilots to go through some packaging classes to bone up on skills. That sounds good Martin -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
