Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
Thanks for letting us know Michael. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:16:55PM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Bryce, Sorry for the delay from my side. It is a busy week... I have one little update for you though: According to NVIDIA the issue I've mentioned should be fixed in 304.60 which will be released this Friday. Best, Michael Sent from phone... Please excuse typos. On Oct 12, 2012 6:46 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 05:18:33PM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Bryce, Unfortunately 1060346 is an internal bug tracking ID of NVIDIA and I also have no access to their bug tracker. In addition to that I can't use easily 'ubuntu-bug xorg' as apport is disabled on our company computers. I also don't know if it would be so helpful if I would submit that report as we build our own NVIDIA packages (based on X updates packages). This is good info, can you paste it into a bug report? If you can't use ubuntu-bug, you can file it manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+filebug It's helpful if you can file the bug report, because then we can contact you for information or to let you know when it's fixed. Bryce Thus I try to give as much details here: $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 304.51 Tue Sep 18 17:16:56 PDT 2012 GCC version: gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) $ dpkg -l | grep nvidia ii nvidia-common1:0.2.44.2 Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers ii nvidia-current 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii nvidia-settings 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ii nvidia-updater 1.19 Postpone NVIDIA package updates until startup $ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3120 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-1 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 640x48075.0 59.9 DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-1 connected 1200x1920+1920+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1920x1080 60.0 59.9 50.0 24.0 30.0 30.0 25.0 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1280x720 60.0 59.9 50.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 720x57650.0 25.0 720x48059.9 30.0 640x48075.0 59.9 59.9 Steps to reproduce the issue: 1) Configure one monitor in portrait orientation 2) xset dpms force standby 3) Press a key or move the mouse so that the monitors leave standby 4) Xorg crash I've also attached my Xorg.0.log.old after a crash. Please note that we were able reproduce this behavior on all release drivers between 304.43 and 304.51. This might be an issue in earlier 3xx.xx drivers too. I hope this helps already a bit... If you need more details please let me know. Best, Michael PS: Wish you a nice weekend... On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:14:30AM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Byrce, Thanks for the great explanation and I agree that it makes sense this way. Please note that we've seen another bug with 304.43 and later (but might affect also earlier 304.x driver versions) on Precise that cause X server crashes under certain circumstances. The circumstances are: * Multi-monitor setup * At least one screen is in portrait orientation * X server crashes once monitors should leave standby * Disabling DPMS prevents the X server crashes NVIDIA has confirmed this issue last week and they are working on a fix. They are tracking the issue under number 1060346. There is no Launchpad bug for this issue. Thanks for letting me know about this Michael. Do you have a URL for viewing the issue number 1060346, or is that an internal bug tracker number? If the latter, is there a forum or mailing list post from NVIDIA referencing that, which we could refer to? Having a Launchpad bug report to follow this would be helpful. The most useful way to file this bug would be to reproduce the
Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
Hi Bryce, Sorry for the delay from my side. It is a busy week... I have one little update for you though: According to NVIDIA the issue I've mentioned should be fixed in 304.60 which will be released this Friday. Best, Michael Sent from phone... Please excuse typos. On Oct 12, 2012 6:46 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 05:18:33PM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Bryce, Unfortunately 1060346 is an internal bug tracking ID of NVIDIA and I also have no access to their bug tracker. In addition to that I can't use easily 'ubuntu-bug xorg' as apport is disabled on our company computers. I also don't know if it would be so helpful if I would submit that report as we build our own NVIDIA packages (based on X updates packages). This is good info, can you paste it into a bug report? If you can't use ubuntu-bug, you can file it manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+filebug It's helpful if you can file the bug report, because then we can contact you for information or to let you know when it's fixed. Bryce Thus I try to give as much details here: $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 304.51 Tue Sep 18 17:16:56 PDT 2012 GCC version: gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) $ dpkg -l | grep nvidia ii nvidia-common1:0.2.44.2 Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers ii nvidia-current 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii nvidia-settings 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ii nvidia-updater 1.19 Postpone NVIDIA package updates until startup $ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3120 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-1 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 640x48075.0 59.9 DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-1 connected 1200x1920+1920+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1920x1080 60.0 59.9 50.0 24.0 30.0 30.0 25.0 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1280x720 60.0 59.9 50.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 720x57650.0 25.0 720x48059.9 30.0 640x48075.0 59.9 59.9 Steps to reproduce the issue: 1) Configure one monitor in portrait orientation 2) xset dpms force standby 3) Press a key or move the mouse so that the monitors leave standby 4) Xorg crash I've also attached my Xorg.0.log.old after a crash. Please note that we were able reproduce this behavior on all release drivers between 304.43 and 304.51. This might be an issue in earlier 3xx.xx drivers too. I hope this helps already a bit... If you need more details please let me know. Best, Michael PS: Wish you a nice weekend... On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:14:30AM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Byrce, Thanks for the great explanation and I agree that it makes sense this way. Please note that we've seen another bug with 304.43 and later (but might affect also earlier 304.x driver versions) on Precise that cause X server crashes under certain circumstances. The circumstances are: * Multi-monitor setup * At least one screen is in portrait orientation * X server crashes once monitors should leave standby * Disabling DPMS prevents the X server crashes NVIDIA has confirmed this issue last week and they are working on a fix. They are tracking the issue under number 1060346. There is no Launchpad bug for this issue. Thanks for letting me know about this Michael. Do you have a URL for viewing the issue number 1060346, or is that an internal bug tracker number? If the latter, is there a forum or mailing list post from NVIDIA referencing that, which we could refer to? Having a Launchpad bug report to follow this would be helpful. The most useful way to file this bug would be to reproduce the crash, and then on the crashed system file the bug via 'ubuntu-bug xorg', which will collect all the log and config files we need. Then also reference any and all background material (steps to reproduce, external bug #'s, forum
Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:18:07AM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Bryce, How about updating it to 304.51? This is mainly a bugfix release and I would recommend it over 304.43. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-304.51-driver We actually have looked at that, but we found there's a bug[1] with 304.51 and Unity when the launcher is set to auto-hide (it never reveals). This was found by testers of the development release, and we reverted nvidia-current back to 304.43 as a result. This is a particular problem for quantal because Unity is enabling autohide by default, so the bug affects people by default and thus is quite severe. For precise, Unity does not auto hide by default, so that makes it less severe; however precise is also an LTS so stability is all the more important and known regressions in even non-default functionality are still worth close scrutiny. For quantal, we'll be shipping 304.43 as the nvidia-current version. It's quite stable and received a huge amount of testing, so I think it's a safe choice. In quantal, we are including 304.51 as the nvidia-current-updates version. It does include some worthwhile bug fixes; still, this is a bit risky: If precise users have -updates enabled and then upgrade to quantal, then unity will break for them. Yet at least there are paths to work around the bug (by going back to nvidia-current). I've notified NVIDIA about this bug, and they've confirmed it and are working on a fix. So we'll have it out in quantal's nvidia-current-updates once it becomes available and passes testing. For precise, it probably makes sense to just skip inclusion of 304.51 for nvidia-current-updates, and wait for the fix. SRU policy applies here, and that tends to strongly avoid updating things if there are known regressions such as we have in this case. But, many precise users probably don't use Unity's autohide feature and would like 304.51 to fix other bugs, and don't want to wait for the next update. We are shipping it in the x-updates PPA[2], and would encourage these users to install from there. Bryce 1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1057000 2: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:14:30AM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Byrce, Thanks for the great explanation and I agree that it makes sense this way. Please note that we've seen another bug with 304.43 and later (but might affect also earlier 304.x driver versions) on Precise that cause X server crashes under certain circumstances. The circumstances are: * Multi-monitor setup * At least one screen is in portrait orientation * X server crashes once monitors should leave standby * Disabling DPMS prevents the X server crashes NVIDIA has confirmed this issue last week and they are working on a fix. They are tracking the issue under number 1060346. There is no Launchpad bug for this issue. Thanks for letting me know about this Michael. Do you have a URL for viewing the issue number 1060346, or is that an internal bug tracker number? If the latter, is there a forum or mailing list post from NVIDIA referencing that, which we could refer to? Having a Launchpad bug report to follow this would be helpful. The most useful way to file this bug would be to reproduce the crash, and then on the crashed system file the bug via 'ubuntu-bug xorg', which will collect all the log and config files we need. Then also reference any and all background material (steps to reproduce, external bug #'s, forum discussions, etc.) Elaborating on any/all testing activity you've done can also be invaluable. Bryce -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
Hi Bryce, How about updating it to 304.51? This is mainly a bugfix release and I would recommend it over 304.43. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-304.51-driver Best, Michael On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 01:20:11AM +0200, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 12 October 2012 01:12, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: We are introducing new 'experimental' driver packages for NVIDIA, which will be available via the Additional Hardware Drivers setup tool for 12.04 user (and 12.10 too). These packages will provide NVIDIA's beta drivers, which are required for certain commercial games. There is an nvidia-experimental-304 package which isn't really a beta Nvidia 304.x driver is required not only for gamers, but also for people having new video cards (it's my case). I've a Nvidia GT 640 and it's not supported by default on 12.04. I had to use a PPA repository to install the 304.x driver so I was able to use this video card. I think it should be upgraded in the LTS too, not only in a PPA. Already done. :-) Use the nvidia-current-updates package, which tracks the latest stable nvidia driver, and currently is providing 304.43. Bryce -- Ubuntu-x mailing list ubunt...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-x -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
Hi Byrce, Thanks for the great explanation and I agree that it makes sense this way. Please note that we've seen another bug with 304.43 and later (but might affect also earlier 304.x driver versions) on Precise that cause X server crashes under certain circumstances. The circumstances are: * Multi-monitor setup * At least one screen is in portrait orientation * X server crashes once monitors should leave standby * Disabling DPMS prevents the X server crashes NVIDIA has confirmed this issue last week and they are working on a fix. They are tracking the issue under number 1060346. There is no Launchpad bug for this issue. Best, Michael On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:18:07AM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Bryce, How about updating it to 304.51? This is mainly a bugfix release and I would recommend it over 304.43. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-304.51-driver We actually have looked at that, but we found there's a bug[1] with 304.51 and Unity when the launcher is set to auto-hide (it never reveals). This was found by testers of the development release, and we reverted nvidia-current back to 304.43 as a result. This is a particular problem for quantal because Unity is enabling autohide by default, so the bug affects people by default and thus is quite severe. For precise, Unity does not auto hide by default, so that makes it less severe; however precise is also an LTS so stability is all the more important and known regressions in even non-default functionality are still worth close scrutiny. For quantal, we'll be shipping 304.43 as the nvidia-current version. It's quite stable and received a huge amount of testing, so I think it's a safe choice. In quantal, we are including 304.51 as the nvidia-current-updates version. It does include some worthwhile bug fixes; still, this is a bit risky: If precise users have -updates enabled and then upgrade to quantal, then unity will break for them. Yet at least there are paths to work around the bug (by going back to nvidia-current). I've notified NVIDIA about this bug, and they've confirmed it and are working on a fix. So we'll have it out in quantal's nvidia-current-updates once it becomes available and passes testing. For precise, it probably makes sense to just skip inclusion of 304.51 for nvidia-current-updates, and wait for the fix. SRU policy applies here, and that tends to strongly avoid updating things if there are known regressions such as we have in this case. But, many precise users probably don't use Unity's autohide feature and would like 304.51 to fix other bugs, and don't want to wait for the next update. We are shipping it in the x-updates PPA[2], and would encourage these users to install from there. Bryce 1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1057000 2: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
Hi Bryce, Unfortunately 1060346 is an internal bug tracking ID of NVIDIA and I also have no access to their bug tracker. In addition to that I can't use easily 'ubuntu-bug xorg' as apport is disabled on our company computers. I also don't know if it would be so helpful if I would submit that report as we build our own NVIDIA packages (based on X updates packages). Thus I try to give as much details here: $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 304.51 Tue Sep 18 17:16:56 PDT 2012 GCC version: gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) $ dpkg -l | grep nvidia ii nvidia-common1:0.2.44.2 Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers ii nvidia-current 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii nvidia-settings 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ii nvidia-updater 1.19 Postpone NVIDIA package updates until startup $ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3120 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-1 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 640x48075.0 59.9 DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-1 connected 1200x1920+1920+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1920x1080 60.0 59.9 50.0 24.0 30.0 30.0 25.0 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1280x720 60.0 59.9 50.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 720x57650.0 25.0 720x48059.9 30.0 640x48075.0 59.9 59.9 Steps to reproduce the issue: 1) Configure one monitor in portrait orientation 2) xset dpms force standby 3) Press a key or move the mouse so that the monitors leave standby 4) Xorg crash I've also attached my Xorg.0.log.old after a crash. Please note that we were able reproduce this behavior on all release drivers between 304.43 and 304.51. This might be an issue in earlier 3xx.xx drivers too. I hope this helps already a bit... If you need more details please let me know. Best, Michael PS: Wish you a nice weekend... On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:14:30AM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Byrce, Thanks for the great explanation and I agree that it makes sense this way. Please note that we've seen another bug with 304.43 and later (but might affect also earlier 304.x driver versions) on Precise that cause X server crashes under certain circumstances. The circumstances are: * Multi-monitor setup * At least one screen is in portrait orientation * X server crashes once monitors should leave standby * Disabling DPMS prevents the X server crashes NVIDIA has confirmed this issue last week and they are working on a fix. They are tracking the issue under number 1060346. There is no Launchpad bug for this issue. Thanks for letting me know about this Michael. Do you have a URL for viewing the issue number 1060346, or is that an internal bug tracker number? If the latter, is there a forum or mailing list post from NVIDIA referencing that, which we could refer to? Having a Launchpad bug report to follow this would be helpful. The most useful way to file this bug would be to reproduce the crash, and then on the crashed system file the bug via 'ubuntu-bug xorg', which will collect all the log and config files we need. Then also reference any and all background material (steps to reproduce, external bug #'s, forum discussions, etc.) Elaborating on any/all testing activity you've done can also be invaluable. Bryce Xorg.0.log.old.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu-x] New nvidia experimental driver packages coming soon for 12.04
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 05:18:33PM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Bryce, Unfortunately 1060346 is an internal bug tracking ID of NVIDIA and I also have no access to their bug tracker. In addition to that I can't use easily 'ubuntu-bug xorg' as apport is disabled on our company computers. I also don't know if it would be so helpful if I would submit that report as we build our own NVIDIA packages (based on X updates packages). This is good info, can you paste it into a bug report? If you can't use ubuntu-bug, you can file it manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+filebug It's helpful if you can file the bug report, because then we can contact you for information or to let you know when it's fixed. Bryce Thus I try to give as much details here: $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 304.51 Tue Sep 18 17:16:56 PDT 2012 GCC version: gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) $ dpkg -l | grep nvidia ii nvidia-common1:0.2.44.2 Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers ii nvidia-current 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii nvidia-settings 304.51-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1~gg3Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ii nvidia-updater 1.19 Postpone NVIDIA package updates until startup $ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3120 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-1 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 640x48075.0 59.9 DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP-1 connected 1200x1920+1920+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 59.9 1920x1080 60.0 59.9 50.0 24.0 30.0 30.0 25.0 1600x1200 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1280x720 60.0 59.9 50.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 800x60075.0 60.3 720x57650.0 25.0 720x48059.9 30.0 640x48075.0 59.9 59.9 Steps to reproduce the issue: 1) Configure one monitor in portrait orientation 2) xset dpms force standby 3) Press a key or move the mouse so that the monitors leave standby 4) Xorg crash I've also attached my Xorg.0.log.old after a crash. Please note that we were able reproduce this behavior on all release drivers between 304.43 and 304.51. This might be an issue in earlier 3xx.xx drivers too. I hope this helps already a bit... If you need more details please let me know. Best, Michael PS: Wish you a nice weekend... On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:14:30AM +0200, Michael Wisheu wrote: Hi Byrce, Thanks for the great explanation and I agree that it makes sense this way. Please note that we've seen another bug with 304.43 and later (but might affect also earlier 304.x driver versions) on Precise that cause X server crashes under certain circumstances. The circumstances are: * Multi-monitor setup * At least one screen is in portrait orientation * X server crashes once monitors should leave standby * Disabling DPMS prevents the X server crashes NVIDIA has confirmed this issue last week and they are working on a fix. They are tracking the issue under number 1060346. There is no Launchpad bug for this issue. Thanks for letting me know about this Michael. Do you have a URL for viewing the issue number 1060346, or is that an internal bug tracker number? If the latter, is there a forum or mailing list post from NVIDIA referencing that, which we could refer to? Having a Launchpad bug report to follow this would be helpful. The most useful way to file this bug would be to reproduce the crash, and then on the crashed system file the bug via 'ubuntu-bug xorg', which will collect all the log and config files we need. Then also reference any and all background material (steps to reproduce, external bug #'s, forum discussions, etc.) Elaborating on any/all testing activity you've done can also be invaluable. Bryce -- Ubuntu-x mailing list ubunt...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-x -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel