Re: Browser selection from Ubiquity

2013-01-31 Thread Tomasz Dudzik
Dnia czwartek, 31 stycznia 2013 14:22:12 Dale Trombley pisze:


Just my 2 cents. Firefox on kubuntu without kde support is terrible. A new user 
to kubuntu will 
consider kubuntu a fail when using firefox without kde support. In my opinion 
rekonq vs. 
Firefox without kde integration rekonq wins hands down.
On Jan 31, 2013 1:57 PM, "Clay Weber"  wrote:


Scott Kitterman  wrote:
Rohan Garg  wrote:



Hi everyoneSince the default browser seems to be a fairly hot topic in 
KubuntuI'd like to 
propose the following :

* Keep rekonq as the default browser* Add a new browser selection page in 
Ubiquity right 
after the


"Prepare" page which allows the user to pick one of the the 3available choices 
Firefox/Chromium/Rekonq ( rekonq selected by default)

Pro's : People don't complain (loudly) about our browser selection


For people trying out Kubuntu for the first time who knownothing about packages 
and how to 
install software, it gives them aneasy way to choose a more feature complete 
browser.

Con's : Adds another step in the installer










different applications,  the priority of those factors will be different. For a 
web browser, I think 
that's the correct order.

If Firefox doesn't fit, then we throw the first two out and ship rekonq.



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Re: Browser selection from Ubiquity

2013-01-31 Thread Dale Trombley
Just my 2 cents. Firefox on kubuntu without kde support is terrible. A new
user to kubuntu will consider kubuntu a fail when using firefox without kde
support.
In my opinion rekonq vs. Firefox without kde integration rekonq wins hands
down.
On Jan 31, 2013 1:57 PM, "Clay Weber"  wrote:

> Scott Kitterman  wrote:
>>
>> Rohan Garg  wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>> Since the default browser seems to be a fairly hot topic in Kubuntu
>>> I'd like to propose the following :
>>>
>>> * Keep rekonq as the default browser
>>> * Add a new browser selection page in Ubiquity right after the
>>> "Prepare" page which allows the user to pick one of the the 3
>>> available choices Firefox/Chromium/Rekonq ( rekonq selected by default
>>> )
>>>
>>> Pro's : People don't complain (loudly) about our browser selection
>>> For people trying out Kubuntu for the first time who know
>>> nothing about packages and how to install software, it gives them an
>>> easy way to choose a more feature complete browser.
>>>
>>> Con's : Adds another step in the installer
>>>
>>> While some people might argue that users might not be able to choose
>>> one over the other, this will not hold true for most of the users
>>> since we can safely assume that they have used/heard about either one
>>> of the browsers in the past and already have a preference.
>>>
>>> I've also heard some issues being raised about chromium not having a
>>> security cycle in tune with our release cycle, but it seems that
>>> Lubuntu ships Chromium as their default browser.
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on this.
>>
>>
>> If we're going to put Firefox on our install media we should just make it 
>> default.   It's the only browser in the archive with proper security 
>> support.  In the long run that's a really, really essential feature for 
>> browsers.
>>
>> The fact that Lubuntu made a different choice should not sway us a bit.
>>
>> I believe we should make opinionated choices to give our users a safe, 
>> functional, KDE experience.  For
>> different applications,  the priority of those factors will be different. 
>> For a web browser, I think that's the correct order.
>>
>> If Firefox doesn't fit, then we throw the first two out and ship rekonq.
>>
>> Scott K
>>
>>
>>
> I have to agree here. Unless we can have at the minimum working open-with
> support, Firefox is a poor choice to even offer as an option.
>
> Choosing a rounded, useful selection of software is key to Kubuntu being
> Kubuntu.
>
> I don't like the idea of having extra choices in the installer, it doesn't
> fit in with my last statement, above and opens the door to more bloat and
> busyness.
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