Re: Regarding patching virtualbox in 12.04

2013-03-12 Thread Pranav
Yes, as of the users I didn refer to normal/end-users but to hackers and
advanced users like me (advanced enough to know these trivial diffs). As
per my experience the older version on the SW Centre is having some issues
with networking on VM's which is fixed/better performing on the latest one
with some other changes/fixes. Also what is missing is the addons and stuff
from Virtual Box.
Regards,
Pranav


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Thomas Mashos  wrote:

> I don't think making the user go to the website to download the deb is a
> very good idea.
>
> A) We shouldn't have broken software in the repo (especially when it's
> known broken with a known fix)
>
> B) Some users can't/won't install software from third party areas/repos
> and will only use the default repos (a sane and completely relevant idea)
>
> C) IIRC, the deb file on the virtualbox website has proprietary bits
> included. The version in the repos is the OSE version.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas Mashos
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Pranav  wrote:
>
>> I think it is better to download the Virtual Box deb file from its
>> official website instead of the ubuntu ppa or software centre as its a
>> older version and also the above mentioned issue will arise.
>> Regards,
>> Pranav
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Steffen Barszus <
>> steffenbpu...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2013/3/5 Chris Johnston :
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>>> > On 03/05/2013 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I am writing this regarding the issues being faced by Virtualbox
>>> >> users in 12.04.
>>> >>
>>> >> 12.04 was released with kernel 3.2 and then the kernel 3.5 was
>>> >> offered as a possible upgrade. Most users are currently switching
>>> >> over to 3.5
>>>
>>> What makes it worse, is that at new installations, kernel 3.5 is the
>>> default. So this boils down to virtualbox being broken in LTS release
>>> by backport kernel
>>>
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Re: Regarding patching virtualbox in 12.04

2013-03-12 Thread Thomas Mashos
I don't think making the user go to the website to download the deb is a
very good idea.

A) We shouldn't have broken software in the repo (especially when it's
known broken with a known fix)

B) Some users can't/won't install software from third party areas/repos and
will only use the default repos (a sane and completely relevant idea)

C) IIRC, the deb file on the virtualbox website has proprietary bits
included. The version in the repos is the OSE version.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Pranav  wrote:

> I think it is better to download the Virtual Box deb file from its
> official website instead of the ubuntu ppa or software centre as its a
> older version and also the above mentioned issue will arise.
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Steffen Barszus <
> steffenbpu...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2013/3/5 Chris Johnston :
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>> >
>> > On 03/05/2013 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I am writing this regarding the issues being faced by Virtualbox
>> >> users in 12.04.
>> >>
>> >> 12.04 was released with kernel 3.2 and then the kernel 3.5 was
>> >> offered as a possible upgrade. Most users are currently switching
>> >> over to 3.5
>>
>> What makes it worse, is that at new installations, kernel 3.5 is the
>> default. So this boils down to virtualbox being broken in LTS release
>> by backport kernel
>>
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Re: Regarding patching virtualbox in 12.04

2013-03-12 Thread Pranav
I think it is better to download the Virtual Box deb file from its official
website instead of the ubuntu ppa or software centre as its a older version
and also the above mentioned issue will arise.
Regards,
Pranav


On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Steffen Barszus <
steffenbpu...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 2013/3/5 Chris Johnston :
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> > On 03/05/2013 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am writing this regarding the issues being faced by Virtualbox
> >> users in 12.04.
> >>
> >> 12.04 was released with kernel 3.2 and then the kernel 3.5 was
> >> offered as a possible upgrade. Most users are currently switching
> >> over to 3.5
>
> What makes it worse, is that at new installations, kernel 3.5 is the
> default. So this boils down to virtualbox being broken in LTS release
> by backport kernel
>
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Re: Regarding patching virtualbox in 12.04

2013-03-07 Thread Steffen Barszus
2013/3/5 Chris Johnston :
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> On 03/05/2013 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am writing this regarding the issues being faced by Virtualbox
>> users in 12.04.
>>
>> 12.04 was released with kernel 3.2 and then the kernel 3.5 was
>> offered as a possible upgrade. Most users are currently switching
>> over to 3.5

What makes it worse, is that at new installations, kernel 3.5 is the
default. So this boils down to virtualbox being broken in LTS release
by backport kernel

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Re: Regarding patching virtualbox in 12.04

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Johnston
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On 03/05/2013 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am writing this regarding the issues being faced by Virtualbox
> users in 12.04.
> 
> 12.04 was released with kernel 3.2 and then the kernel 3.5 was
> offered as a possible upgrade. Most users are currently switching
> over to 3.5
> 
> The version Virtualbox in 12.04 was 4.12. The problem is that this 
> version no longer works with the 3.5 kernel and needs to be
> patched. Please see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1081307. 
> There is a patch in that bug and it is working fine for me and
> other for quite some time now.
> 
> It has been difficult to get in touch with the maintainer to ask
> him to patch the package. More than a 100 people are affected by
> the bug. Please let me know how to proceed to fix the package at
> the earliest.
> 
> Thanks, -- Pranith
> 

This sounds like it would possibly be a candidate for an SRU [1].
Please take a look at the wiki for more information on the process.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates


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Regarding patching virtualbox in 12.04

2013-03-05 Thread Pranith Kumar
Hi,

I am writing this regarding the issues being faced by Virtualbox users in 12.04.

12.04 was released with kernel 3.2 and then the kernel 3.5 was offered
as a possible upgrade. Most users are currently switching over to 3.5

The version Virtualbox in 12.04 was 4.12. The problem is that this
version no longer works with the 3.5 kernel and needs to be patched.
Please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1081307.
There is a patch in that bug and it is working fine for me and other
for quite some time now.

It has been difficult to get in touch with the maintainer to ask him
to patch the package. More than a 100 people are affected by the bug.
Please let me know how to proceed to fix the package at the earliest.

Thanks,
--
Pranith

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