Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...
2013/2/22 Scott Ritchie scottritc...@ubuntu.com: I've been absolutely flooded with informal reports over a period of several months now of 12.10 being still broken with regards to proprietary drivers. Reports like this are typical, especially after the influx of steam users: Installed ubuntu + proprietary amd drivers, got no unity at 800x600 on next reboot and uninstalled. The proximate cause is a combination of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/1068341 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1070427 I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/1123107 could be the one that has the fix for all the bugs. The fix is now in precise-proposed, with quantal being In Progress. CC:ing Alberto who has been working on the jockey/ubuntu-drivers-common/nvidia-common updates. -Timo -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...
2013/2/22 Scott Ritchie scottritc...@ubuntu.com: I'm not sure what the underlying fix should be, but it is making me question if there's some sort of larger process issue here because we've managed to drop this on the floor for so long. A good question. It might be that the proprietary drivers haven't been pushed in QA/Testing teams high enough, compared to how much users use them and how jockey suggests installing them. The problem is furthered by the history of non-Ubuntu bugs/problems with at least fglrx. Right now there has been the case of AMD dropping support for HD 2000-4000 series in the newer drivers, and only the newer drivers support newer kernels. I'm not sure what's the exact situation for 12.04.2 (or 12.10) - do they suggest an uninstallable fglrx driver for HD 2000 - 4000 users or not. I think the Modaliases of the package's control file is used, so the question is whether that is properly stripped of the now unsupported series. If anyone wants to tinker... -Timo -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...
Wouldn't a fix be as easy as enforcing linux-headers-generic on the ISO image and/or at the initial OS installation? On 22 Feb 2013 13:25, Scott Ritchie scottritc...@ubuntu.com wrote: I've been absolutely flooded with informal reports over a period of several months now of 12.10 being still broken with regards to proprietary drivers. Reports like this are typical, especially after the influx of steam users: Installed ubuntu + proprietary amd drivers, got no unity at 800x600 on next reboot and uninstalled. The proximate cause is a combination of https://bugs.launchpad.net/** ubuntu/+source/nvidia-**graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/**1068341https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/1068341and https://bugs.launchpad.net/**ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/**1070427https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1070427 But more worrisome is that this appears to be something we still haven't fixed for 12.10, even if the fix is a hackish ugly workaround such as forcing the install of the headers-generic pacakge in the additional drivers tool. I'm not sure what the underlying fix should be, but it is making me question if there's some sort of larger process issue here because we've managed to drop this on the floor for so long. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-develhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...
On 22/02/13 04:24, Scott Ritchie wrote: I've been absolutely flooded with informal reports over a period of several months now of 12.10 being still broken with regards to proprietary drivers. Reports like this are typical, especially after the influx of steam users: Installed ubuntu + proprietary amd drivers, got no unity at 800x600 on next reboot and uninstalled. The proximate cause is a combination of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/1068341 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1070427 But more worrisome is that this appears to be something we still haven't fixed for 12.10, even if the fix is a hackish ugly workaround such as forcing the install of the headers-generic pacakge in the additional drivers tool. I'm not sure what the underlying fix should be, but it is making me question if there's some sort of larger process issue here because we've managed to drop this on the floor for so long. After a discussing the best approach with infinity and cyphermox, I worked around the issue in Raring first (in January) and opened the following bug report about Precise (it's in -proposed, waiting to be tested): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/1123107 I didn't know about the bug in ubiquity in 12.10, otherwise I would have backported the fix from Raring shortly after doing it in Precise. I have completed my tests on the backport for 12.10 today and I will upload the code tomorrow. Sorry it took so long. Cheers, -- Alberto Milone Software Engineer Hardware Enablement Team Professional and Engineering Services -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...
2013/2/22 Scott Ritchie scottritc...@ubuntu.com: I've been absolutely flooded with informal reports over a period of several months now of 12.10 being still broken with regards to proprietary drivers. Reports like this are typical, especially after the influx of steam users: Installed ubuntu + proprietary amd drivers, got no unity at 800x600 on next reboot and uninstalled. The proximate cause is a combination of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/1068341 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1070427 I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/1123107 could be the one that has the fix for all the bugs. The fix is now in precise-proposed, with quantal being In Progress. CC:ing Alberto who has been working on the jockey/ubuntu-drivers-common/nvidia-common updates. -Timo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...
2013/2/22 Scott Ritchie scottritc...@ubuntu.com: I'm not sure what the underlying fix should be, but it is making me question if there's some sort of larger process issue here because we've managed to drop this on the floor for so long. A good question. It might be that the proprietary drivers haven't been pushed in QA/Testing teams high enough, compared to how much users use them and how jockey suggests installing them. The problem is furthered by the history of non-Ubuntu bugs/problems with at least fglrx. Right now there has been the case of AMD dropping support for HD 2000-4000 series in the newer drivers, and only the newer drivers support newer kernels. I'm not sure what's the exact situation for 12.04.2 (or 12.10) - do they suggest an uninstallable fglrx driver for HD 2000 - 4000 users or not. I think the Modaliases of the package's control file is used, so the question is whether that is properly stripped of the now unsupported series. If anyone wants to tinker... -Timo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
This missing kernel headers on our latest stable release madness...
I've been absolutely flooded with informal reports over a period of several months now of 12.10 being still broken with regards to proprietary drivers. Reports like this are typical, especially after the influx of steam users: Installed ubuntu + proprietary amd drivers, got no unity at 800x600 on next reboot and uninstalled. The proximate cause is a combination of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/1068341 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1070427 But more worrisome is that this appears to be something we still haven't fixed for 12.10, even if the fix is a hackish ugly workaround such as forcing the install of the headers-generic pacakge in the additional drivers tool. I'm not sure what the underlying fix should be, but it is making me question if there's some sort of larger process issue here because we've managed to drop this on the floor for so long. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
