Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[AWASHIRO Ikuya]

On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:49:07 +0200
Sebastien Bacher  wrote:

> Is that still an issue? Is there a bug open about it? Why do we need to 
> use libgnomekbd?
I don't find any issues. But Fedora enables this configure option.
It may have potential issue.

> Seems like that one got resolved, right?
Yes, this issue is already fixed.

> Is that still an issue as well? Could you open a bug report describing 
> the problem and added you patch, then subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug?
Mozc is now update to the newest one. So these issues are fixed.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/emacs-mozc

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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Sebastien Bacher]

Le 25/08/2013 14:35, AWASHIRO Ikuya a écrit :

Hi,

I've tested on the latest saucy and found several issues.
PPA is here: 
https://launchpad.net/~ikuya-fruitsbasket/+archive/ibus?field.series_filter=saucy


Hey,

Sorry that this email didn't get any reply during that time, I just 
noticed it again after your recent post about the other issue.


1. IBus
* ibus-541492-xkb.patch provides "--enable-libgnomekbd" option, but it
   doesn't  enable in debian/rules.
* make check is always fail, so it should be fix.
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/146997767/ibus_1.5.3-0ubuntu2~ppa1_1.5.3-0ubuntu2~ppa2.diff.gz


Is that still an issue? Is there a bug open about it? Why do we need to 
use libgnomekbd?


2. IBus-Anthy
* ibus-anthy 1.5.3-1 doesn't work. But it already fix by Mitsuya.
   This issue originally fixed by me.
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/ibus-anthy/1.5.3-2

Seems like that one got resolved, right?

3. Mozc
* Mozc 1.6.1187.102 is too old for IBus 1.5. So upsteam author fixes two issues.
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/146264796/mozc_1.6.1187.102-1build1_1.6.1187.102-1ubuntu1~ppa1.diff.gz

And Mozc has several tools like config dialog, dictionary tool and so on.
But indicator-keyboard cannot start these tools. Of course gnome-shell can do.
http://twitpic.com/da8bg4
Any idea?

Is that still an issue as well? Could you open a bug report describing 
the problem and added you patch, then subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug?


Thanks,
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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Sebastien Bacher]

Le 02/10/2013 11:45, AWASHIRO Ikuya a écrit :

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1230265
Anyone can help?
Does it make sense?
This bus is very annoying for Japanese (and some other languages).


Hey,

Thanks for pointing that issue out.

I've commented on the bug, basically it seems to make sense to drop that 
git backport, since it was made with an assumption that a new tool would 
provide the feature, which is wrong in saucy.


I'm going to upload that later today, but I would still welcome 
input/comments from ibus/ims users if you anyone has concerns about that 
change or better suggestions.


Cheers,
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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[AWASHIRO Ikuya]

Hi,

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1230265
Anyone can help?
Does it make sense?
This bus is very annoying for Japanese (and some other languages).

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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:55:20AM +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:
> On 16.07.2013 20:20, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >Does this imply that ibus-daemon will be running for users who have no need
> >of its input methods?   This doesn't sound like a good idea to me.  We
> >should be using upstart to *reduce* the number of persistent services
> >running when they don't need to, by only starting them in cases / for
> >contexts where they will really be used.
> 
> I basically agree with Steve. But maybe we could add an installation
> checkbox option in the installer, something among the lines of:
> "Enable IBus input methods on autostart for all users"?

I don't think it makes sense to have specific installer UI for it.  We
should be able to DWIM by looking at the keyboard layout and whether any
input methods are configured.

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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak]

Hi everyone,

On 16.07.2013 20:20, Steve Langasek wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:27:10PM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:


We are considering having ibus-daemon autostart for everyone, probably
using an upstart user session. This should help ensure that alternate
input methods just work without needing to enable an option and log
out first. http://pad.lv/1194138


Does this imply that ibus-daemon will be running for users who have no need
of its input methods?   This doesn't sound like a good idea to me.  We
should be using upstart to *reduce* the number of persistent services
running when they don't need to, by only starting them in cases / for
contexts where they will really be used.


I basically agree with Steve. But maybe we could add an installation 
checkbox option in the installer, something among the lines of: "Enable 
IBus input methods on autostart for all users"? We could give some nice 
explanation there on why this could be important for asian-language 
users etc. Maybe even have the checkbox checked by default when the user 
selects specific languages that might need it.


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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Steve Langasek]

Hi Jeremy,

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:27:10PM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:

> We are considering having ibus-daemon autostart for everyone, probably
> using an upstart user session. This should help ensure that alternate
> input methods just work without needing to enable an option and log
> out first. http://pad.lv/1194138

Does this imply that ibus-daemon will be running for users who have no need
of its input methods?   This doesn't sound like a good idea to me.  We
should be using upstart to *reduce* the number of persistent services
running when they don't need to, by only starting them in cases / for
contexts where they will really be used.

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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Jeremy Bicha]

On 9 July 2013 13:23, Sebastien Bacher  wrote:
> Before doing the update I wanted to check if anyone has an opinion on the
> update (we don't have so many ibus users in the desktop team which means we
> might be overlooking issues) and if the upgrade is fine for the other
> flavors.
>
> (We are going to push the new stack in the ubuntu-desktop ppa in the next
> days, for extra testing, and will keep the list updated when that happens)

The new ibus stack and indicator-keyboard are ready for testing in
ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa. If you are using Unity, please manually
install indicator-keyboard as we haven't set up the metapackages to
depend on it yet.

The new shortcut to switch keyboard layouts is Super+Space (this is
now the default in ibus, GNOME 3.8 and Windows 8). At this time, Unity
doesn't handle that keyboard shortcut properly ( http://pad.lv/1201679
). As a workaround, you can use Shift+Super+Space to switch keyboard
layouts backwards.

We are considering having ibus-daemon autostart for everyone, probably
using an upstart user session. This should help ensure that alternate
input methods just work without needing to enable an option and log
out first. http://pad.lv/1194138

Please let us know if the upgrade causes any new issues so we can deal
with regressions before uploading to Saucy directly. It would help if
someone could check the other desktop flavors (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.)
too.

Thanks,
Jeremy

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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Jeremy Bicha]

On 9 July 2013 17:07, Nedas Pekorius  wrote:
> ibus in ppa (and lately in release) would be compiled against version 1.5 or
> latest 1.5.2 ?

It's 1.5.2.

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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Tim]

On 10/07/13 03:23, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Before doing the update I wanted to check if anyone has an opinion on the 
> update (we don't have so many ibus users in the desktop team which
> means we might be overlooking issues) and if the upgrade is fine for the 
> other flavors.
>
>
+1 for Ubuntu GNOME. input switching has been broken in gnome-shell since 3.6, 
basically waiting for updated ibus.

- Tim



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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Nedas Pekorius]

ibus in ppa (and lately in release) would be compiled against version 1.5
or latest 1.5.2 ?


On 9 July 2013 22:15, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak  wrote:

> Hi Seb,
>
> On 09.07.2013 19:23, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> > (...)
>
>  Before doing the update I wanted to check if anyone has an opinion on
>> the update (we don't have so many ibus users in the desktop team which
>> means we might be overlooking issues) and if the upgrade is fine for the
>> other flavors.
>>
>> (We are going to push the new stack in the ubuntu-desktop ppa in the
>> next days, for extra testing, and will keep the list updated when that
>> happens)
>>
>
> +1 for me. I have been struggling with some python issues when fixing ibus
> autopilot tests in Unity/Nux, which have been fixed in 1.5 basically. This
> could make some things potentially easier.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards,
>
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Re: Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak]

Hi Seb,

On 09.07.2013 19:23, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> (...)

Before doing the update I wanted to check if anyone has an opinion on
the update (we don't have so many ibus users in the desktop team which
means we might be overlooking issues) and if the upgrade is fine for the
other flavors.

(We are going to push the new stack in the ubuntu-desktop ppa in the
next days, for extra testing, and will keep the list updated when that
happens)


+1 for me. I have been struggling with some python issues when fixing 
ibus autopilot tests in Unity/Nux, which have been fixed in 1.5 
basically. This could make some things potentially easier.


Thanks!

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Update ibus to 1.5 in saucy?

[Sebastien Bacher]

Hey everyone,

Updating ibus to 1.5 has been discussed for some cycles, and (afaik) we 
have been holding on the update because:


- the new version had some issues (some bugs, problems with settings 
migration, some features dropped like "im by windows" (which got added 
back since it seems), ...)

- Debian didn't update yet
- to get proper GNOME/Unity support for ibus 1.5 we need g-s-d/g-c-c 
3.6, or our current keyboard indicator was built on code going away ... 
we needed somebody with cycles to write a proper indicator


Since the situation improved:
- the new ibus is out for a while, bugs got fixed
- we updated GNOME (while reverting the keyboard code to the old version 
since that needs to be upgraded with ibus)
- we got a proper keyboard indicator: 
https://launchpad.net/indicator-keyboard


Since most of the blockers have been resolved it seems like this cycle 
is a good time to do the update (especially if next cycle is a LTS, 
better to sort out issues one cycle in advance).


Before doing the update I wanted to check if anyone has an opinion on 
the update (we don't have so many ibus users in the desktop team which 
means we might be overlooking issues) and if the upgrade is fine for the 
other flavors.


(We are going to push the new stack in the ubuntu-desktop ppa in the 
next days, for extra testing, and will keep the list updated when that 
happens)


Thanks for reading,
Sebastien Bacher

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