Re: Upgrading Precise to Trusty

[Elfy]

On 07/02/14 20:52, Richard Elkins wrote:
I should also add that the upgrade testing from 12.04.3 to 
14.04.latest-at-that-time was rather pristine.  I tried both an ISO 
image upgrade and one via `update-manager -c -d`.  Very predictable 
and stable results.  So, a bit of documentation word-smithing in the 
release notes for 14.04 may be sufficient. I'd also like to see other 
Xubuntu QA and developer folks also try out these two upgrade methods 
on Precise to Trusty before April and report their testing results in 
the usual place for upgrade testing:


64-bit: 
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/57247/testcases
32-bit: 
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/57248/testcases


Anyone have a different perspective?

Richard



I'd not have thought so :)

Once we get to Beta 1 then I would expect to have been asking people to 
be looking at upgrades.


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Upgrading Precise to Trusty

[Richard Elkins]

I should also add that the upgrade testing from 12.04.3 to
14.04.latest-at-that-time was rather pristine.  I tried both an ISO
image upgrade and one via `update-manager -c -d`.  Very predictable and
stable results.  So, a bit of documentation word-smithing in the release
notes for 14.04 may be sufficient.  I'd also like to see other Xubuntu
QA and developer folks also try out these two upgrade methods on Precise
to Trusty before April and report their testing results in the usual
place for upgrade testing:

64-bit:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/57247/testcases
32-bit:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/57248/testcases

Anyone have a different perspective?

Richard


On 02/07/2014 02:25 PM, Richard Elkins wrote:
> 12.04.4 ISO installation testing looks good from a test case
> perspective (my experience).  As stated below by Pasi, it would be
> possible to handle 12.04.4 to "12.04.5" via package updates and leave
> it alone for the most part.
>
> So, I'd rather see effort put in the customer migration of 12.04.x to
> 14.04 (combination of documentation, automation, and manual process). 
> Moving from current LTS to new LTS has a higher payoff for all concerned.
>
> Richard
>
> On 02/07/2014 02:09 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
>> If there is enough interest and motivation from the community
>> (including people who can actually help with the SRU), it can be
>> discussed. As Jackson, I don't personally think it as a realistic
>> thing to do at the moment either.
>>
>> Pasi
>>
>> On 07/02/14 22:03, Jackson Doak wrote:
>>> 4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone backporting it all
>>> the way to precise
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roberto J Dohnert
>>> mailto:robertdohn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling
>>> piece would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no
>>> pun intended, release date.  Releasing the trusty kernel through
>>> updates would be optimal.  Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux
>>> team, are supporting 12.04 for two years past the scheduled
>>> Ubuntu support date until 2019.  So, we may do a 14.10 stack as
>>> our last major release, we may work on that for Xubuntu as
>>> well.  But that will be determined on where 14.04 LTS is at that
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Roberto J. Dohnert
>>> Lead Developer
>>> Black Lab Linux
>>> http://www.blacklablinux.org
>>>
>>> On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
 If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can just release
 12.04.5 as is, with the updates that have landed to Ubuntu core
 after .4. On the other hand, if there is something we want in,
 it's another possibility to get stuff in an ISO, not just updates.

 I would note that there is only 1 year left of Xubuntu support
 for 12.04, so not sure if it makes any difference to land big
 SRU's now, since people need to upgrade to 14.04 somewhat
 shortly anyway.

 Cheers,
 Pasi

 On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:
> FYI
>
> How does this align with our planning?
>
> Stephen Michael Kellat 
> In the basement cafeteria on lunch
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From:* Leann Ogasawara > >
>> *Date:* February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST
>> *To:* ubuntu-rele...@lists.ubuntu.com
>> ,
>> ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* *[RFC] 12.04.5*
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the
>> idea of having a 12.04.5 point release for Precise.
>>
>> As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have shipped
>> with a newer kernel and X stack by default for hardware
>> enablement purposes.  Maintainers of these enablement stacks
>> have agreed to support these until a Trusty based enablement
>> stack is supported in Precise.  Once a Trusty enablement
>> stack is supported, all previous enablement stacks would EOL
>> and be asked to migrate to the final Trusty based enablement
>> stack which would continue to be supported for the remaining
>> life of Precise.
>>
>> Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point release for Precise.
>>  12.04.4 shipped with a Saucy enablement stack by default.
>>  This Saucy enablement stack in Precise will eventually EOL
>> in favor of the Trusty enablement stack.  Once that happens,
>> our final point release for Precise will be delivering an
>> EOL'd enablement stack.  This seems unfortunate and
>> inappropriate.  I would like to pro