Re: aptdaemon
Le 15/03/2017 à 23:24, Jeremy Bicha a écrit : > sessioninstaller is broken in zesty now (LP: #1661371) > > As I commented on the bug, gnome-software can replace sessioninstaller > (at least for the purpose of installing the codecs to play an mp3), > but it doesn't work with gnome-software apt backend. Hey there, Just a follow up about sessioninstaller. I had a look at the issue and it's still working, the problem is that the packagekit backend build has been turned on mid-cycle in zesty (looks like an error, it was not documented in the changelog at least) resulting in gnome-software including a dbus .service/claiming the org.freedesktop.PackageKit name on the session bus, which means sessioninstaller can't do that and is bailing out. We discussed that on IRC and Jeremy has uploaded a new gnome-software revision to disable packagekit back, which should be enough to fix the issue for zesty. It would still be good to fix gnome-software codec installation when using our apt backend so we can deprecate sessioninstaller though, I'm going to have a look to that next. Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> I believe aptdaemon is effectively abandoned. It's been removed from Debian
> but it's still hanging around in Ubuntu due to a few reverse dependencies:
>
> % reverse-depends aptdaemon
> Reverse-Depends
> ===
> * gnome-software
> * language-selector-gnome
> * oem-config-gtk
> * python-aptdaemon
> * python3-aptdaemon
> * sessioninstaller
>
> I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. I can't find a
> reference to aptdaemon in the source, and I built a version without it in my
> PPA, tested it in a Zesty VM and it worked fine afaict. I've prepared a
> version that's ready for upload, which I'd like to do unless someone with more
> knowledge about it objects. (OTOH, it's not urgent so it can wait until after
> Zesty.)
>
> That leaves three remaining dependencies (ignoring python{,3}-apdaemon) all of
> which appear legitimate. Note that language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk,
> and sessioninstaller are only in Ubuntu, not in Debian, and each still have
> their own reverse dependencies.
>
> I bring this up because back in January, I uploaded aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 which was a contributed fix for LP: #1623856; a problem
> with the minimum window height. I thought I'd tested the build at the time,
> but I got distracted with other things, and was reminded today that it's
> *still* in -proposed because its failing its tests. I don't think those tests
> are fixable without a fair bit of work since afaict, they are using obsolete
> APIs that no longer exist. The version before mine was last uploaded in
> Yakkety, and even trying to build the Yakkety version in Zesty fails. So my
> changes (as expected) aren't relevant and the package is simply no longer
> buildable in Ubuntu. Yay for TIL.
>
> Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop it,
> but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk
> (src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of those
> packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them.
>
> Given where we are in the Zesty cycle, I recommend just dropping aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 from -proposed and marking LP: #1623856 as Won't Fix.
> Let's try to drop aptdaemon from Ubuntu in Acrobatic Aardvark.
>
So, sessioninstaller is an aptdaemon based implementation of the
PackageKit session interface. The two can be dropped together, since
they are both unmaintained and not needed. PackageKit provides
everything needed as a replacement.
The dependency by gnome-software is illusory, as it depends on
PackageKit D-Bus interfaces (provided by PackageKit). The dependency
wasn't even present in xenial, as far as I recall...
oem-config-gtk is a single script[1] with only a few lines of code
actually using aptdaemon, and that can be ported to use PackageKit
instead.
language-selector-gnome is similar[2], and should be easy to port out
to PackageKit, assuming this is even needed anymore. It doesn't look
like it's maintained either...
[1]:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/view/head:/bin/oem-config-remove-gtk
[2]:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/language-selector/vivid/view/head:/LanguageSelector/gtk/GtkLanguageSelector.py
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Fwd: aptdaemon
2017-03-15 20:44 GMT+01:00 Barry Warsaw :
> I believe aptdaemon is effectively abandoned. It's been removed from Debian
> but it's still hanging around in Ubuntu due to a few reverse dependencies:
>
> % reverse-depends aptdaemon
> Reverse-Depends
> ===
> * gnome-software
> * language-selector-gnome
> * oem-config-gtk
> * python-aptdaemon
> * python3-aptdaemon
> * sessioninstaller
>
> I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. I can't find a
> reference to aptdaemon in the source, and I built a version without it in my
> PPA, tested it in a Zesty VM and it worked fine afaict. I've prepared a
> version that's ready for upload, which I'd like to do unless someone with more
> knowledge about it objects. (OTOH, it's not urgent so it can wait until after
> Zesty.)
>
> That leaves three remaining dependencies (ignoring python{,3}-apdaemon) all of
> which appear legitimate. Note that language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk,
> and sessioninstaller are only in Ubuntu, not in Debian, and each still have
> their own reverse dependencies.
>
> I bring this up because back in January, I uploaded aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 which was a contributed fix for LP: #1623856; a problem
> with the minimum window height. I thought I'd tested the build at the time,
> but I got distracted with other things, and was reminded today that it's
> *still* in -proposed because its failing its tests. I don't think those tests
> are fixable without a fair bit of work since afaict, they are using obsolete
> APIs that no longer exist. The version before mine was last uploaded in
> Yakkety, and even trying to build the Yakkety version in Zesty fails. So my
> changes (as expected) aren't relevant and the package is simply no longer
> buildable in Ubuntu. Yay for TIL.
>
> Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop it,
> but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk
> (src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of those
> packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them.
>
> Given where we are in the Zesty cycle, I recommend just dropping aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 from -proposed and marking LP: #1623856 as Won't Fix.
> Let's try to drop aptdaemon from Ubuntu in Acrobatic Aardvark.
I can't comment on the other stuff, but sessioninstaller is
essentially obsolete if you have GNOME Software with the PackageKit
backend installed, as in that case GS will provide the PackageKit
session interface.
Sessionistaller seems to be broken in general, as it probably hasn't
transitioned to the new session API.
(every once in a while someone attributes these issues to PackageKit,
which makes me notice them)
See for example this issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sessioninstaller/+bug/1661371
Cheers,
Matthias
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Re: aptdaemon
Just piping in to voice that oem-config-gtk is currently quite essential
to system vendors shipping Ubuntu Desktop. Any action taken here should
avoid breaking oem installs for 17.04, 17.10, etc. Whether that means
keeping aptdaemon around or porting oem-config-gtk, I don't have a clear
opinion yet.
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> I believe aptdaemon is effectively abandoned. It's been removed from
> Debian
> but it's still hanging around in Ubuntu due to a few reverse
> dependencies:
>
> % reverse-depends aptdaemon
> Reverse-Depends
> ===
> * gnome-software
> * language-selector-gnome
> * oem-config-gtk
> * python-aptdaemon
> * python3-aptdaemon
> * sessioninstaller
>
> I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. I can't find a
> reference to aptdaemon in the source, and I built a version without it in
> my
> PPA, tested it in a Zesty VM and it worked fine afaict. I've prepared a
> version that's ready for upload, which I'd like to do unless someone with
> more
> knowledge about it objects. (OTOH, it's not urgent so it can wait until
> after
> Zesty.)
>
> That leaves three remaining dependencies (ignoring python{,3}-apdaemon)
> all of
> which appear legitimate. Note that language-selector-gnome,
> oem-config-gtk,
> and sessioninstaller are only in Ubuntu, not in Debian, and each still
> have
> their own reverse dependencies.
>
> I bring this up because back in January, I uploaded aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 which was a contributed fix for LP: #1623856; a
> problem
> with the minimum window height. I thought I'd tested the build at the
> time,
> but I got distracted with other things, and was reminded today that it's
> *still* in -proposed because its failing its tests. I don't think those
> tests
> are fixable without a fair bit of work since afaict, they are using
> obsolete
> APIs that no longer exist. The version before mine was last uploaded in
> Yakkety, and even trying to build the Yakkety version in Zesty fails. So
> my
> changes (as expected) aren't relevant and the package is simply no longer
> buildable in Ubuntu. Yay for TIL.
>
> Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop
> it,
> but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome,
> oem-config-gtk
> (src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of
> those
> packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them.
>
> Given where we are in the Zesty cycle, I recommend just dropping
> aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 from -proposed and marking LP: #1623856 as Won't
> Fix.
> Let's try to drop aptdaemon from Ubuntu in Acrobatic Aardvark.
>
> Cheers,
> -Barry
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Re: aptdaemon
2017-03-15 20:44 GMT+01:00 Barry Warsaw :
> I believe aptdaemon is effectively abandoned. It's been removed from Debian
> but it's still hanging around in Ubuntu due to a few reverse dependencies:
>
> % reverse-depends aptdaemon
> Reverse-Depends
> ===
> * gnome-software
> * language-selector-gnome
> * oem-config-gtk
> * python-aptdaemon
> * python3-aptdaemon
> * sessioninstaller
>
> I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. I can't find a
> reference to aptdaemon in the source, and I built a version without it in my
> PPA, tested it in a Zesty VM and it worked fine afaict. I've prepared a
> version that's ready for upload, which I'd like to do unless someone with more
> knowledge about it objects. (OTOH, it's not urgent so it can wait until after
> Zesty.)
>
> That leaves three remaining dependencies (ignoring python{,3}-apdaemon) all of
> which appear legitimate. Note that language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk,
> and sessioninstaller are only in Ubuntu, not in Debian, and each still have
> their own reverse dependencies.
>
> I bring this up because back in January, I uploaded aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 which was a contributed fix for LP: #1623856; a problem
> with the minimum window height. I thought I'd tested the build at the time,
> but I got distracted with other things, and was reminded today that it's
> *still* in -proposed because its failing its tests. I don't think those tests
> are fixable without a fair bit of work since afaict, they are using obsolete
> APIs that no longer exist. The version before mine was last uploaded in
> Yakkety, and even trying to build the Yakkety version in Zesty fails. So my
> changes (as expected) aren't relevant and the package is simply no longer
> buildable in Ubuntu. Yay for TIL.
>
> Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop it,
> but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk
> (src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of those
> packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them.
>
> Given where we are in the Zesty cycle, I recommend just dropping aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 from -proposed and marking LP: #1623856 as Won't Fix.
> Let's try to drop aptdaemon from Ubuntu in Acrobatic Aardvark.
I can't comment on the other stuff, but sessioninstaller is
essentially obsolete if you have GNOME Software with the PackageKit
backend installed, as in that case GS will provide the PackageKit
session interface.
Sessionistaller seems to be broken in general, as it probably hasn't
transitioned to the new session API.
(every once in a while someone attributes these issues to PackageKit,
which makes me notice them)
See for example this issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sessioninstaller/+bug/1661371
Cheers,
Matthias
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Re: aptdaemon
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 06:24:21PM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. > > Ok, I dropped the aptdaemon depends from the gnome-software bzr > packaging repository. I think this is a bogus change. Look at the code: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-software/tree/src/plugins/gs-plugin-apt.cc?h=wip/ubuntu-3-22#n846 and then let's see what provides that file laney@nightingale> dpkg -S /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.debian.apt.service aptdaemon: /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.debian.apt.service So no. We are actively using aptdaemon in gnome-software and it is definitely far too late to be switching it out. I guess that without aptdaemon the PK backend is taking over installing packages - you could confirm that by checking the --verbose output if you wanted to. I agree that it would be better if our aptdaemon backend were dropped in favour of using packagekit, but if somebody has time to work on this then it is the task for the start of a cycle, not the end. Cheers, -- Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
On Mar 16, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >The change is a trivial gtk property tweak, why would we discard the fix >rather than just force migrating the new version in, since it has no >actual regression? That's probably reasonable too. In chatting with Steve on IRC, we at least decided *not* to drop it from -proposed. lp:aptdaemon is up-to-date but dropping it could cause some version skew for a later upload (e.g. if someone apt-get source'd it instead). Cheers, -Barry pgptaZwMdDzZ5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
Hey Barry, Le 15/03/2017 à 20:44, Barry Warsaw a écrit : > Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop it, > but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk > (src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of those > packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them. We have been wanting to move to proper packagekit for several cycles, in fact we tried to do that for xenial when we started using gnome-software since that's what upstream is using. Bugs had been open but so far we didn't find people with free slots to work on converting those to packagekit. Of course you can check open bugs and files some new one but that's not likely to help much moving the topic forward if we don't find people or team to step up to work on that... Note that at least for language-selector pitti mentioned in the past that aptdaemon has some specific feature that isn't available in packagekit so we might need to invest some work on packagekit itself as well. > Given where we are in the Zesty cycle, I recommend just dropping aptdaemon > 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 from -proposed and marking LP: #1623856 as Won't Fix. > Let's try to drop aptdaemon from Ubuntu in Acrobatic Aardvark. The change is a trivial gtk property tweak, why would we discard the fix rather than just force migrating the new version in, since it has no actual regression? Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:44:59PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop it, > but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk > (src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of those > packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them. oem-config's use of aptdaemon is a single <100-line script, bin/oem-config-remove-gtk in lp:ubiquity. I think it would probably take less than a day for somebody familiar with the current state of this stuff to port it. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
PPA available now for gnome-software with the PackageKit backend: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-software/ Jeremy -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > * sessioninstaller sessioninstaller is broken in zesty now (LP: #1661371) As I commented on the bug, gnome-software can replace sessioninstaller (at least for the purpose of installing the codecs to play an mp3), but it doesn't work with gnome-software apt backend. We could switch gnome-software to use PackageKit instead of our patched-in apt backend (LP: #1643134), but it's getting late in zesty's release cycle. I could create a PPA with a PK-enabled gnome-software if people want to take a look at it. > I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. Ok, I dropped the aptdaemon depends from the gnome-software bzr packaging repository. Jeremy -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
On Mar 15, 2017, at 01:28 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >I think this is the wrong command and you need 'reverse-depends >src:aptdaemon' to see the actual impact here. This shows that there are >lots more reverse-dependencies on the python modules. LP: #1673258 -Barry pgpS2LD6hHNm9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
On Mar 15, 2017, at 01:28 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >I think this is the wrong command and you need 'reverse-depends >src:aptdaemon' to see the actual impact here. This shows that there are >lots more reverse-dependencies on the python modules. Ah, indeed. That explains why aptdaemon was still pulled in even with the dep removed from gnome-software. g-s -> software-properties-gtk -> aptdaemon I'm still going to ask that the version of aptdaemon in -proposed be dropped and will close that bug as Won't Fix. -Barry Reverse-Recommends == * 0install-core (for python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat) * dell-recovery (for python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * update-notifier (for python3-aptdaemon) * update-notifier (for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) Reverse-Depends === * apturl(for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * apturl (for python3-aptdaemon) * gnome-software(for aptdaemon) * language-selector-gnome (for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * language-selector-gnome (for aptdaemon) * lubuntu-software-center (for python-aptdaemon) * lubuntu-software-center (for python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * mythbuntu-control-centre (for python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * oem-config-gtk(for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * oem-config-gtk(for aptdaemon) * sessioninstaller (for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * sessioninstaller (for aptdaemon) * software-properties-gtk (for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * ubuntu-mate-core (for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * ubuntu-mate-desktop (for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * ubuntu-mate-welcome (for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) * ubuntu-mate-welcome (for python3-aptdaemon) * update-manager(for python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets) Packages without architectures listed are reverse-dependencies in: amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x pgpzPLPNgpsCb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: aptdaemon
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:44:59PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> I believe aptdaemon is effectively abandoned. It's been removed from Debian
> but it's still hanging around in Ubuntu due to a few reverse dependencies:
>
> % reverse-depends aptdaemon
> Reverse-Depends
> ===
> * gnome-software
> * language-selector-gnome
> * oem-config-gtk
> * python-aptdaemon
> * python3-aptdaemon
> * sessioninstaller
I think this is the wrong command and you need 'reverse-depends
src:aptdaemon' to see the actual impact here. This shows that there are
lots more reverse-dependencies on the python modules.
> I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. I can't find a
> reference to aptdaemon in the source, and I built a version without it in my
> PPA, tested it in a Zesty VM and it worked fine afaict. I've prepared a
> version that's ready for upload, which I'd like to do unless someone with more
> knowledge about it objects. (OTOH, it's not urgent so it can wait until after
> Zesty.)
>
> That leaves three remaining dependencies (ignoring python{,3}-apdaemon) all of
> which appear legitimate. Note that language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk,
> and sessioninstaller are only in Ubuntu, not in Debian, and each still have
> their own reverse dependencies.
>
> I bring this up because back in January, I uploaded aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 which was a contributed fix for LP: #1623856; a problem
> with the minimum window height. I thought I'd tested the build at the time,
> but I got distracted with other things, and was reminded today that it's
> *still* in -proposed because its failing its tests. I don't think those tests
> are fixable without a fair bit of work since afaict, they are using obsolete
> APIs that no longer exist. The version before mine was last uploaded in
> Yakkety, and even trying to build the Yakkety version in Zesty fails. So my
> changes (as expected) aren't relevant and the package is simply no longer
> buildable in Ubuntu. Yay for TIL.
>
> Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop it,
> but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk
> (src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of those
> packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them.
>
> Given where we are in the Zesty cycle, I recommend just dropping aptdaemon
> 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 from -proposed and marking LP: #1623856 as Won't Fix.
> Let's try to drop aptdaemon from Ubuntu in Acrobatic Aardvark.
>
> Cheers,
> -Barry
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aptdaemon
I believe aptdaemon is effectively abandoned. It's been removed from Debian
but it's still hanging around in Ubuntu due to a few reverse dependencies:
% reverse-depends aptdaemon
Reverse-Depends
===
* gnome-software
* language-selector-gnome
* oem-config-gtk
* python-aptdaemon
* python3-aptdaemon
* sessioninstaller
I think the gnome-software dependency is unnecessary. I can't find a
reference to aptdaemon in the source, and I built a version without it in my
PPA, tested it in a Zesty VM and it worked fine afaict. I've prepared a
version that's ready for upload, which I'd like to do unless someone with more
knowledge about it objects. (OTOH, it's not urgent so it can wait until after
Zesty.)
That leaves three remaining dependencies (ignoring python{,3}-apdaemon) all of
which appear legitimate. Note that language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk,
and sessioninstaller are only in Ubuntu, not in Debian, and each still have
their own reverse dependencies.
I bring this up because back in January, I uploaded aptdaemon
1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 which was a contributed fix for LP: #1623856; a problem
with the minimum window height. I thought I'd tested the build at the time,
but I got distracted with other things, and was reminded today that it's
*still* in -proposed because its failing its tests. I don't think those tests
are fixable without a fair bit of work since afaict, they are using obsolete
APIs that no longer exist. The version before mine was last uploaded in
Yakkety, and even trying to build the Yakkety version in Zesty fails. So my
changes (as expected) aren't relevant and the package is simply no longer
buildable in Ubuntu. Yay for TIL.
Given the state of aptdaemon, I think it's in Ubuntu's interest to drop it,
but that means porting or dropping language-selector-gnome, oem-config-gtk
(src:ubuquity), and sessioninstaller. I don't know what the states of those
packages are, so the best I can do is file bugs against them.
Given where we are in the Zesty cycle, I recommend just dropping aptdaemon
1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu17 from -proposed and marking LP: #1623856 as Won't Fix.
Let's try to drop aptdaemon from Ubuntu in Acrobatic Aardvark.
Cheers,
-Barry
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Aptdaemon and Python 3
Dear Ubuntu-Developers, Finally the Python 3 port of aptdaemon is ready for testing! Thanks to Barry, Colin and Martin for advice, support and code. So we are getting a step closer to shipping Python 3.2 by default. I uploaded the latest version to ppa:aptdameon-developers/python3 The packaging is currently hosted at lp:~aptdaemon-developers/aptdaemon/ubuntu-py3 and the code is in trunk lp:aptdaemon. It comes with a Python 2 and 3 based test suite which runs at build time. Unfortunately we get test suite failures on some build daemons. According to Pitti this could be related to older kernels running on those and not working properly with the latest GIO based D-Bus bindings used in the PackageKit client tests. In the PPA you will also find a later version of software-properties which will provide Python 3 modules. The plan is to remove this dependency of aptdaemon by moving the relevant bits down the stack to python-apt. Furthermore the following highlights are worth mentioning: * Runs with Python 3.2 by default (so all plugins have to be ported) * Ships packagekit.enums as aptdaemon.pkenums (a Python3 port would have been nice but it would require a large amount of work and we only need the enums module in aptdaemon and the plugins) * Provides the virtual package packagekit-system-interface. This allows your clients to depend on packagekit-system-interface instead of adding an ugly or dependency on python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat and packagekit. Ximion, the Debian maintainer of PackageKit, will add the provides, too. For the session interface we will soon get packagekit-session-interface. This should then be used by session-installer, apper and gnome-packagekit. I am looking forward to your feedback. Cheers, Sebastian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Wanted: Port of release-upgrader to aptdaemon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 release-upgrader is the part of Update Manager that upgrades Ubuntu from one version to the next. Currently it uses apt directly. This has several drawbacks. For example, it uses the ugly gksudo prompt instead of the nicer PolicyKit one. And if you happen to be installing or removing an application in Ubuntu Software Center, instead of waiting for that to finish, the upgrade just fails. These problems can be fixed by porting release-upgrader to use Aptdaemon, like Ubuntu Software Center and the rest of Update Manager do. (It would also make sense to split it off into a separate codebase from update-manager.) If anyone would like to tackle this, here's the code: <https://code.launchpad.net/update-manager> And here's the Aptdaemon reference: <http://packages.python.org/aptdaemon/> If you need help, you can find Michael Vogt (mvo) in the #ubuntu-devel IRC channel. Thanks! - -- mpt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8iqrcACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecrolwCdHYDbo3UMnVF0SPA4G/H1Os+u A4gAnjS0X30sOpzLwvtPY4DoRxk8MTcy =rHX9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
