Re: Handling crash reports

2007-02-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 04:29:03PM -0600, David Farning wrote:
 This is follow up to the changing nature of bug reports from a few weeks
 ago.
 
 On the Mozillateam our triagers are getting swamped with automatic crash
 reports.
 
 I would like to make a few suggestions that would greatly help our
 efforts and hopefully others developers too.
 
 1.  Add a top level boolean that categorizes issue reports as crashes.
 This will greatly aid the sorting of bugs for different types of
 triagers.

If your intention is to suggest this as an improvement to Launchpad, then
you should send it to the launchpad-users list (the Launchpad developers
don't read ubuntu-devel-discuss).

 2.  Automate the process for apport to upload crash report data.  Many
 of our issue are reports of crashes without the crash data.

This is now implemented in Feisty, as we had been working along these lines
for some time now.

 3.  Automate the process of symbolizing crash reports.  The process of
 downloading the crash report, running apport-retrace, and re-uploading
 the now symbolized crash report is very slow for all but the fastest
 network connections.

This has, of course, been our intention from the start, which is why you see
that all of the pieces for it already exist but need some work to be glued
together.  Unfortunately, this gluing is sometimes the hard part.

Newer versions of apport in Feisty provide a more standardized summary for
the bug, which should help in culling duplicates.

If the reports are only useful with debug symbols, then apport could check
whether firefox-dbg is installed, and guide the user to install it in order
to submit the report.  The new apport hook infrastructure might be
sufficient for the task.

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Re: restarting firefox

2007-02-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:37:01PM -0600, David Farning wrote:
 A number of browser related bug seem to caused by not restarting the
 browser after updating some packages in the system.  These packages seem
 to be firefox itself, some themes, and some fonts.
 
 Until the mozillateam gets these issues sorted out, would it be feasible
 to have update manager request that firefox be restart if any themes or
 fonts are updated.

This is already done for Firefox itself.  Can you point to some of the
apparent issues with themes and fonts?  I've never known those to cause a
problem.

Martin: how about an apport hook which would check for the existence of the
file which indicates that a restart is needed, and suppresses the problem
report, apologizing and telling the user that Firefox must be restarted
after updating it.

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Herd 3: Crash Report right after Booting Live or Fresh Install

2007-02-02 Thread Andreas Schildbach
Hi everyone,

I'm just checking if these are known bug(s):

1) Right after booting Herd 3 live or a fresh install I get a crash 
report (about Add/Remove Programs) in the systray area. This seems to be 
very reproducible.

2) I tried to use the designated error reporting mechanism for reporting 
the error, but unfortunately the web browser never showed up after 
sending the crash data.

I am using a Dell Latitude X1, which did not surface problem #1 with 
Herd 2 or earlier.

Regards,

Andreas


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Re: Herd 3: Crash Report right after Booting Live or Fresh Install

2007-02-02 Thread Joel Bryan Juliano

On 2/3/07, Andreas Schildbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi everyone,

I'm just checking if these are known bug(s):

1) Right after booting Herd 3 live or a fresh install I get a crash
report (about Add/Remove Programs) in the systray area. This seems to be
very reproducible.

2) I tried to use the designated error reporting mechanism for reporting
the error, but unfortunately the web browser never showed up after
sending the crash data.

I am using a Dell Latitude X1, which did not surface problem #1 with
Herd 2 or earlier.

Regards,

Andreas



Herd 3 now includes Python 2.5 (with all the necessary modules), and doing
so, removed alot of Python 2.4 modules. And I see that most of the
applications are working with 2.5, except that Gnome App Install is the only
application that use Python 2.4, which is currently an increment of CD
space, which is too bad, because we can't test out one of the most shiningly
important and super advance application in this world, the libgimme super
automatic codec installer. Oh the humanity!

Cheers,
Joel

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Re: Herd 3: Crash Report right after Booting Live or Fresh Install

2007-02-02 Thread Conrad Knauer
On 2/2/07, Joel Bryan Juliano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Herd 3 now includes Python 2.5 (with all the necessary modules), and doing 
 so, removed alot of Python 2.4 modules. And I see that most of the 
 applications are working with  2.5, except that Gnome App Install is the only 
 application that use Python 2.4, which is currently an increment of CD space, 
 which is too bad, because we can't test out one of the most shiningly 
 important and super advance application in this world, the libgimme super 
 automatic codec installer. Oh the humanity!

???  libgimme works in Herd 3 :)

I even took screenshots:

http://members.shaw.ca/Limulus/misc/gimme1a.png
http://members.shaw.ca/Limulus/misc/gimme1.png
http://members.shaw.ca/Limulus/misc/gimme2.png

Tested with this file iiRC:
http://www.kemado.com/site/downloadaudio.php?artist=thefeverfile=waitingforthecentipede.mp3

CK

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