Re: GetDeb.net vs. Backports...

2007-03-05 Thread Michael R Head
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 15:45 -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 01:16:44PM -0500, Michael R. Head wrote:
> > I just came across www.getdeb.net today. The goals appear to be similar
> > to those of the backports project (to provide the latest versions of
> > desktop apps for previously released versions of Ubuntu). 
> > 
> > However, they also have a number of packages available that aren't in
> > either Debian or Ubuntu's universe (for example Referencer:
> > http://icculus.org/referencer/index.html ). I'm wondering if there's
> > some way to get a dialog started to make sure the work of the GetDeb.net
> > folks gets integrated into the universe. 
> 
> I'd never heard of it until now.  I'm CCing the MOTU Council, who I hope can
> provide a channel to begin a conversation with them.

Cool. I really do hope it's possible to bring the work into the universe
quickly. I emailed with the project lead (João Pinto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) and he informed me that he felt that bringing
the packages into compliance with Ubuntu/Debian policies would take more
time than he felt he could personally afford. He did mention that he's
planning to provide debdiffs for those interested in MOTUing his
packages.

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Re: How to join Google Summer of Code 2007?

2007-03-05 Thread Zak B. Elep
"Joel Bryan Juliano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm really really would like to join the Google SoC 2007, I have a lot
> of proposals in mind, and I have a strong confidence that I can prove
> them technically*. After 1 year of waiting, I can't elaborate how
> enthusiastically dead serious I'am. Anyone can help me how to join?

Have you seen the timeline?[1] IIRC Google starts accepting applications
by March 14th up to the 24th, so I think you'll have a headstart in
getting all your rad project ideas into writing now :D

> What are the mechanics of an Ubuntu SoC 2007 student, do I need to be
> a MOTU?

Just sign up to the main SoC site, wait until Google starts accepting
proposals, then submit, then wait again. :P  If and when you do get
accepted, you will have to prepare your transcript of records for later
submission (as that's the only way for students outside the US to
validate with Google IIRC.)

I don't think you even need to be a Ubuntu Member to participate, as
long as you can really show your stuff to your would-be mentors.  Which
brings up the question: who in the community will be mentors for Ubuntu
on this SoC?

Cheers,

Zakame  (who is keen to join again :D)


Footnotes: 
[1]  http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729

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Re: More Ubuntu Wallpapers

2007-03-05 Thread Daniel Robitaille
On 3/5/07, Alec Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I've been wandering recently, why doesn't Ubuntu come with more
> wallpapers? It currently only comes with three wallpapers, all of which
> are made on the computer; whereas Windows XP comes with lots of very
> nice wallpapers, including actual photos. For those who don't know what
> I'm talking about, here are a few examples (I home Microsoft don't hunt
> me down for this):
> http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=autumnbi1.jpg
> http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=azuldd6.jpg
> http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stonehengegj9.jpg
> http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tulipsvy3.jpg
> http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blissai9.jpg
>
> I am aware that because Ubuntu is free and open source, it would not be
> possible to hire professional photographers, but I expect that there
> would be some people in the Ubuntu community willing to "donate" photos
> which they have taken to Ubuntu. For example, if you went on holiday and
> took a picture of an important landmark, and the photo looked
> professional, the photo could be considered for inclusion in Ubuntu as a
> desktop background, if the photographer was willing to publish it under
> an appropriate license.
>
> An obvious way of getting pictures form photographer to developer is via
> art.ubuntu.com. The higher rated user uploaded photos should be
> considered by the developers for inclusion in Ubuntu.

by the way, the photographer who took some of the background pictures
used  for Vista put some of the pictures that didn't make the cut into
Vista on his web site.

   http://www.hamaddarwish.com/

That could be a nice PR move by Canonical to ask him to do a
photoshoot for a future version of Ubuntu :)


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Re: More Ubuntu Wallpapers

2007-03-05 Thread Caroline Ford
t u wrote:
> I mentioned this before regarding bug # 77289 [1] but wikipedia and
> commons featured pics are nice places to look for background pics...
>
> [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-calendar/+bug/77289
> Revive ubuntu-calendar
>
> thanks :)
>
>   
I uploaded some featured images from wikimedia commons to
art.ubuntu.com. They are all under free licenses.

I selected ones in shades of brown to match the ubuntu colour scheme.

Caroline


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How to join Google Summer of Code 2007?

2007-03-05 Thread Joel Bryan Juliano
I'm really really would like to join the Google SoC 2007, I have a lot
of proposals in mind, and I have a strong confidence that I can prove
them technically*. After 1 year of waiting, I can't elaborate how
enthusiastically dead serious I'am. Anyone can help me how to join?

Someone will donate a system76 computer for me, and I'm expecting them
within 2 days, so I'll be very well equipt for the job.

What are the mechanics of an Ubuntu SoC 2007 student, do I need to be a MOTU?


* see my portfolio, http://joelbryanonsoftware.blogspot.com

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Re: Herd 3/4/5 Testing Result (one show stopper bug)

2007-03-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
That particular report hadn't seen a response yet, but it looks like a
duplicate of bug #78255, which is confirmed and is being investigated by a
developer.

On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 05:46:46PM -0500, Matt Galvin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Apologies if this seems forward, I simply want to ensure the
> developers are aware of a potential show stopper bug that has affected
> myself, one other person and very likely others.
> 
> I usually track the bleeding edge and always have the latest dev
> release on my desktop machine. A little over a month ago I was forced
> back onto edgy due to a bug that completely prevents GNOME (and
> seemingly KDE as well although it didn't investigate as thoroughly
> with Kubuntu) from starting. This results in a completely unusable
> desktop. The bug in question is:
> 
> feisty dbus/avahi crash... causes gnome to not start. -
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/88252
> 
> The issue has something to do dbus, hal and or avahi. I'm not entirely
> sure. This happens to me on both i386 and amd64. This issue appears to
> be limited to certain hardware in some way since feisty does work for
> most people.
> 
> Again, apologies for raising the issue here. I have only done so since
> the bug has not had any developer input since it was opened and since
> it is a show stopper for at least myself a one other person. I simply
> want to ensure that a critical issue is at least known. Please let me
> know if I can help in any way to resolve the issue.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Matt
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Re: GetDeb.net vs. Backports...

2007-03-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 01:16:44PM -0500, Michael R. Head wrote:
> I just came across www.getdeb.net today. The goals appear to be similar
> to those of the backports project (to provide the latest versions of
> desktop apps for previously released versions of Ubuntu). 
> 
> However, they also have a number of packages available that aren't in
> either Debian or Ubuntu's universe (for example Referencer:
> http://icculus.org/referencer/index.html ). I'm wondering if there's
> some way to get a dialog started to make sure the work of the GetDeb.net
> folks gets integrated into the universe. 

I'd never heard of it until now.  I'm CCing the MOTU Council, who I hope can
provide a channel to begin a conversation with them.

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Re: More Ubuntu Wallpapers

2007-03-05 Thread t u
I mentioned this before regarding bug # 77289 [1] but wikipedia and
commons featured pics are nice places to look for background pics...

[1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-calendar/+bug/77289
Revive ubuntu-calendar

thanks :)

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Re: More Ubuntu Wallpapers

2007-03-05 Thread Alec Wright
Wow, thanks for the RPM. That's a great find! I love Silence.jpg and
Soaring.jpg. I'll upload those pictures to art.ubuntu.com to make them
more accessible to other users. Still, it would be nice to see more of
these sorts of backgrounds included with Ubuntu, seeing as they're GPL.

On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 15:40 -0700, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> I always install gnome-backgrounds.  There are actually quite a few
> GPL (not sure how that applies to photos, but whatever) packages of
> excellent backgrounds.  Not many are included in the Ubuntu
> repositories though.
> 
> OpenSuSE has a few I like that can be had from this source rpm
> (file-roller should be able to extract it for you), for instance:
> http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/src/desktop-data-SuSE-10.3-13.src.rpm
> 
> According to the spec file in that source rpm the license is GPL.
> 
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Re: More Ubuntu Wallpapers

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
I always install gnome-backgrounds.  There are actually quite a few
GPL (not sure how that applies to photos, but whatever) packages of
excellent backgrounds.  Not many are included in the Ubuntu
repositories though.

OpenSuSE has a few I like that can be had from this source rpm
(file-roller should be able to extract it for you), for instance:
http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/src/desktop-data-SuSE-10.3-13.src.rpm

According to the spec file in that source rpm the license is GPL.

- Andrew

On 3/5/07, Alec Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I've been wandering recently, why doesn't Ubuntu come with more
> wallpapers? It currently only comes with three wallpapers, all of which
> are made on the computer; whereas Windows XP comes with lots of very
> nice wallpapers, including actual photos. For those who don't know what
> I'm talking about, here are a few examples (I home Microsoft don't hunt
> me down for this):
> http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=autumnbi1.jpg
> http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=azuldd6.jpg
> http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stonehengegj9.jpg
> http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tulipsvy3.jpg
> http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blissai9.jpg
>
> I am aware that because Ubuntu is free and open source, it would not be
> possible to hire professional photographers, but I expect that there
> would be some people in the Ubuntu community willing to "donate" photos
> which they have taken to Ubuntu. For example, if you went on holiday and
> took a picture of an important landmark, and the photo looked
> professional, the photo could be considered for inclusion in Ubuntu as a
> desktop background, if the photographer was willing to publish it under
> an appropriate license.
>
> An obvious way of getting pictures form photographer to developer is via
> art.ubuntu.com. The higher rated user uploaded photos should be
> considered by the developers for inclusion in Ubuntu.
>
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Re: RHN style Satellite Server for Ubuntu

2007-03-05 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Montag, den 05.03.2007, 21:32 +1100 schrieb David Dean:
> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone working on an centralized server management system for Ubuntu?
> 
> The basic functionality being distributing commands over "groups" of
> servers, checking patch levels remotely, centralized health-checks,
> and so on. In large install bases this is quite handy - and it would
> be great if it were possible to simply mirror the common repos and
> then farm them out internally (which can be done, but not easily
> enough that it's click-and-point).
> 
> I am thinking of starting on some scripts to achieve RHN-style
> management of multiple machines, unless this can already be declared a
> solved problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> David
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Have you already looked at this:

http://www.howtoforge.com/installing_puppet_on_ubuntu

I haven't done this yet. So I cannot make any recommendations on this.

Personally I use nagios for the monitoring part.

Furthermore I worked on a prototype that does allow remote package
management - it was based on python twisted.

The main problem using apt remotely is the possibility to run
interactive scripts in the postinst. Some maintainers "mis-"use this
capability to ask the user question about the installation, instead of
using debconf. So you need to transfer the file descriptor of the
installer terminal over the network too.

I haven't yet resolved this issue (and I am unsure if I am capable to do
so :), but mvo works on transfering the fd over a UNIX socket (this will
allow to separate the dist-upgrade tool into a graphical frontend and a
backend that would survive a X breakage).

The company gonicus (http://www.gonicus.de) works on the Linux
deployment project of the city of Munich. Perhaps a package management
tool could be integrated into their admin interface too. I met one of
the developers last year on a trade fair, but lost contact.

If you are interested we could join forces!

Cheers,

Sebastian


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More Ubuntu Wallpapers

2007-03-05 Thread Alec Wright
Hi All,
I've been wandering recently, why doesn't Ubuntu come with more
wallpapers? It currently only comes with three wallpapers, all of which
are made on the computer; whereas Windows XP comes with lots of very
nice wallpapers, including actual photos. For those who don't know what
I'm talking about, here are a few examples (I home Microsoft don't hunt
me down for this):
http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=autumnbi1.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=azuldd6.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stonehengegj9.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tulipsvy3.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blissai9.jpg

I am aware that because Ubuntu is free and open source, it would not be
possible to hire professional photographers, but I expect that there
would be some people in the Ubuntu community willing to "donate" photos
which they have taken to Ubuntu. For example, if you went on holiday and
took a picture of an important landmark, and the photo looked
professional, the photo could be considered for inclusion in Ubuntu as a
desktop background, if the photographer was willing to publish it under
an appropriate license.

An obvious way of getting pictures form photographer to developer is via
art.ubuntu.com. The higher rated user uploaded photos should be
considered by the developers for inclusion in Ubuntu.

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Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-03-05 Thread Milan
Done :
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414862


Milan

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RHN style Satellite Server for Ubuntu

2007-03-05 Thread David Dean
Hi,

Is anyone working on an centralized server management system for Ubuntu?

The basic functionality being distributing commands over "groups" of
servers, checking patch levels remotely, centralized health-checks,
and so on. In large install bases this is quite handy - and it would
be great if it were possible to simply mirror the common repos and
then farm them out internally (which can be done, but not easily
enough that it's click-and-point).

I am thinking of starting on some scripts to achieve RHN-style
management of multiple machines, unless this can already be declared a
solved problem?

Thanks,
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Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
On lun, 2007-03-05 at 10:41 +0100, Milan wrote:
> So, should I open a feature request ? On launchpad or on gnome.org ?

Rather on  gnome.org, no reason for the feature to be distribution
specific. 

Sebastien Bacher



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Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-03-05 Thread Milan
So, should I open a feature request ? On launchpad or on gnome.org ?

The question to think about is pam-keyring and passwordless login: the 
user is likely to have to type in is keyring password anyway.


Milan

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