KLF Setup
One of the biggest things that linux users forget all the time is that Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly because of their pretty desktop because if desktop beauty was the deciding factor we would all use OS X. The biggest thing is that one a windows server you can have Ldap + Kerberos + File Serving setup in under 10 minutes with no hassle. On windows its Hey do you want to install Active Directory? Ok I can do that for you type your dns domain name and admin password POOF! I'm done. I have spent the last 8 days trying to get Ldap + Kerberos + NFSv4 to work at home with a little 6 node network and I can't even do that, how do you expect me or anyone to try and deploy this at a business or a school? Its practically impossible to find a good howto on this, and then feeding ldap information with ldif's? What the hell?! Yes I know this is standard but I come from a windows world and to paraphrase the Mac people it just works I am sick of struggling with this and pretty soon am just going to go back to windows work stations. Maybe in the next iteration of Ubuntu instead of just 1. DNS server and 2. LAMP server, they could have another option Directory Server. Server roles are a big reason people like windows. I just click a server role and BAM! Everything is done for me, and in the end Ubuntu's goals are to make linux easy. Johnathan Falk Network Admin Clinton Community Schools MCP, MCSA, A+, Network+, CCNA Johnathan Falk Network Administrator Clinton Community Schools -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: KLF Setup
On Fri, 2007-04-05 at 11:01 -0400, Johnathan Falk wrote: One of the biggest things that linux users forget all the time is that Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly because of their pretty desktop because if desktop beauty was the deciding factor we would all use OS X. The biggest thing is that one a windows server you can have Ldap + Kerberos + File Serving setup in under 10 minutes with no hassle. On windows its Hey do you want to install Active Directory? Ok I can do that for you type your dns domain name and admin password POOF! I'm done. I have spent the last 8 days trying to get Ldap + Kerberos + NFSv4 to work at home with a little 6 node network and I can't even do that, how do you expect me or anyone to try and deploy this at a business or a school? Its practically impossible to find a good howto on this, and then feeding ldap information with ldif's? What the hell?! Yes I know this is standard but I come from a windows world and to paraphrase the Mac people it just works I am sick of struggling with this and pretty soon am just going to go back to windows work stations. Maybe in the next iteration of Ubuntu instead of just 1. DNS server and 2. LAMP server, they could have another option Directory Server. Server roles are a big reason people like windows. I just click a server role and BAM! Everything is done for me, and in the end Ubuntu's goals are to make linux easy. You couldn't be more right about this. I've been through this myself and though I did manage to set up samba and ldap there are so many howto's and other pieces of information that contradict one another it, is just plain ugly and that's being kind. Clear concise and TESTED instructions on the Ubuntu site would be a real help. Even a setup script would be a better first step, something like: would you like to set up [ ] ldap [ ] samba [ ] nfsv4 [ ] kerberos Do you need to connect to ADS as a workstation [ ] yes [ ] no Do you need to be a member server in an ADS tree [ ] yes [ ] no Even that would be better than what happens now If I had experience with Kerberos and an ADS machine to play with I might do this but I just don't have the resources. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: KLF Setup
On 04/05/07 16:01, Johnathan Falk wrote: One of the biggest things that linux users forget all the time is that Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly because of their pretty desktop because if desktop beauty was the deciding factor we would all use OS X. The biggest thing is that one a windows server you can have Ldap + Kerberos + File Serving setup in under 10 minutes with no hassle. On windows its Hey do you want to install Active Directory? Ok I can do that for you type your dns domain name and admin password POOF! I'm done. I have spent the last 8 days trying to get Ldap + Kerberos + NFSv4 to work at home with a little 6 node network and I can't even do that, how do you expect me or anyone to try and deploy this at a business or a school? Its practically impossible to find a good howto on this, and then feeding ldap information with ldif's? What the hell?! Yes I know this is standard but I come from a windows world and to paraphrase the Mac people it just works I am sick of struggling with this and pretty soon am just going to go back to windows work stations. There's a specification being worked on to provide the features you mention. It seems to be making good progress: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/network-authentication Feel free to find out if there are any contributions you can make towards this goal. -- Andy Price -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: KLF Setup
On Fri, 2007-04-05 at 16:16 +0100, Andrew Price wrote: There's a specification being worked on to provide the features you mention. It seems to be making good progress: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/network-authentication Feel free to find out if there are any contributions you can make towards this goal. Yes I am aware of that and well done, however, that spec has been worked on ever since Breezy or Hoary, I got the feeling nothing was happening. I'm not complaining so much per say just that this is a big issue and has been mentioned here on the lists for the last couple years. I guess what I'm saying is I think this is an important enough issue that maybe Mark might think about pumping some resources into it for a month or so. Cheers -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
glade-3 doesn't have Gnome stuff?
Hi all, As a newbie I installed glade-3 as well as glade-gnome . Now while in glade-3 one can easily do GTK+ stuff but not GNOME. Please look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glade-3/+bug/112479 and confirm or lemme know where I've gone wrong. Cheers! -- Shirish Agarwal This work is licensed under the Creative Commons NonCommercial Sampling Plus 1.0 License. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/nc-sampling+/1.0/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
