Re: Draining the font swamp
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 02:59:41PM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:59:42PM -0500, Ming Hua wrote: > > I believe the general consensus among Chinese users is that bitmap fonts > > are preferred for small font size. > > Do the xfonts-* fonts fall into these categories? Yes, they are the "stand-alone bitmap fonts" I mentioned, sorry for being unclear. So to re-iterate, I believe most, if not all, Chinese users prefer bitmap fonts for small font sizes. This can be achieved in two ways, stand-alone BDF/PCF fonts, such as the ones in xfonts-* packages, or embedded bitmap in TrueType fonts, and the only such TT fonts available in Debian/Ubuntu are ttf-arphic-{uming,ukai}. > I'm not sure what character set they cover. That's a question I don't have clear answer either. I know xfonts-wqy covers quite a wide range of CJK characters, and their most recent release definitely cover GBK (a.k.a. Windows code page 936), which should satisfy simplified Chinese (zh_CN) users' need. It should also cover Big5 (a.k.a. Windows code page 950) for the need of traditional Chinese users in Taiwan (zh_TW). I think it doesn't cover Big5-HKSCS yet, which is needed by traditional Chinese users in Hong Kong (zh_HK). Note Debian/Ubuntu currently haven't packaged the most recent release though. The two TrueType fonts, ttf-arphic-{uming,ukai}, should be using the same set of embedded bitmaps. This set of bitmaps are not the same as the xfonts-wqy font, but some subset of them may share the same origin. As the upstream author, Arne, is also participating this discussion, he should know more details if it's an important piece of information. Both xfonts-wqy and ttf-arphic-* also have some coverage for Japanese and Korean characters. But I have no idea about how complete the coverage is or what quality the glyphs are. I also haven't heard much about Japanese and Korean users using these fonts, they have their own preferred TrueType fonts, and maybe bitmap fonts as well. P.S.: I'm subscribed to all these three lists, so cc: is not necessary. :-) Ming 2007.05.24 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Technical Board meeting minutes, 2007-05-22
On do, 2007-05-24 at 15:01 +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 06:20:58PM +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: > > On di, 2007-05-22 at 21:59 +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > > > The members of the Board recognized that they have been inconsistent > > > about keeping minutes and thereby communicating decisions to the > > > community. > > > MDZ volunteered to communicate this meeting's outcome, and also noted the > > > potential helpfulness of a secretary to help ensure that this important > > > communication happens. Interested volunteers are encouraged to email > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I am already doing this for the CC and so far I get no complaints -- > > wouldn't mind doing that for the TB as well. > > That would be great, thank you. Do you need anything from us? Not really, I'll just do the same as for the CC meeting, which is: * Maintaining the agenda * Poking people to come to meetings * Prodding launchpad (well, I won't be able to do that for the TB) * Writing summaries on the wiki (could send them out via mail as well) -- Dennis K. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Technical Board meeting minutes, 2007-05-22
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 06:20:58PM +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: > On di, 2007-05-22 at 21:59 +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > The members of the Board recognized that they have been inconsistent > > about keeping minutes and thereby communicating decisions to the community. > > MDZ volunteered to communicate this meeting's outcome, and also noted the > > potential helpfulness of a secretary to help ensure that this important > > communication happens. Interested volunteers are encouraged to email > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I am already doing this for the CC and so far I get no complaints -- > wouldn't mind doing that for the TB as well. That would be great, thank you. Do you need anything from us? -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Draining the font swamp
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:59:42PM -0500, Ming Hua wrote: > I believe the general consensus among Chinese users is that bitmap fonts > are preferred for small font size. Do the xfonts-* fonts fall into these categories? I'm not sure what character set they cover. -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Draining the font swamp
I received this reply off-list; it was only sent to pkg-fonts-devel. Copying back to ubuntu-* as well, as it's very informative. -- - mdz --- Begin Message --- pgpFnfiU3AlJz.pgp Description: PGP message --- End Message --- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss