Re: Launchpad bug workflow change

[Christof Krüger]

On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:36 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
 In order to join ubuntu-qa you have to show experience with bug triaging.  So 
 once again, this is a new barrier to entry for people that want to fix bugs.  
 Bug triaging and bug fixing are two different things.  What you propose is 
 like a layer violation in protocol design.

I'd like to agree with Scott and don't let it look like he is alone with
his view.

I'm an ubuntu *user* and there have been some small bugs that were --
well -- bugging me. I don't have the overview about how the ubuntu
community is organized in detail.

Sometimes, I find small bugs which I can fix by myself. This has already
happened several times in the past. Having to register for a ubuntu-qa
group first would definitely discourage me from using LP because my time
is quite limited and I only want a certain bug fixed ASAP without having
to be a member of a special group. Actually, the problem is not *being*
a member of a group but *becoming* it. Such a user has to find out how
things are organized and where he needs to apply first, which he just
might not be interested in in the first place.

Especially, I don't think that ubunqu-qa would be the right group
anyway. I'm not interested in triaging bugs. I just don't have the
expertise for this. Remember, I just want to fix a bug here and there
which is a personal thing and not related to how important a fix
actually is for the average user or the community.

 IMO it's a solution in search of a problem.  I have yet to see anyone
 set a bug to in progress that wasn't actually working on it.
If this is the case, I don't see a need to change that, too. If you want
to fix something, you need a problem first. If the fix also imposes
additional work (group management) it might be counterproductive.

I'm sure I wasn't saying anything that wasn't already said here.
However, I felt like having to confirm what Scott was writing about from
a occasional patch writer perspective.

Cheers,
  Christof Krüger


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cbe toolchain packages for Ubuntu

[Matthias Klose]

[ Please ignore this email, if you do not want to develop for the processor
found in the Sony Playstation 3, or other CBE based systems ]

Experimental ppu/spu toolchain packages for Ubuntu are available for the feisty
and gutsy (development) releases.

 - The packages for the gutsy release can be found in the gutsy archive
   in the `universe' section of the archive.

 - Packages for the feisty release can be found at

 deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu feisty-proposed/
 deb-src http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu feisty-proposed/

Both sets of packages are based on the rpm packages found at
http://www.bsc.es/plantillaH.php?cat_id=304 . All packaging bugs not found in
the rpm packages are mine. The naming of the binary packages is the same as
found in the rpm packaging (with libspe{,-dev} renamed to libspe1{,-dev} to
conform with ubuntu and debian policy).

An overview of bugs reported for the packages in ubuntu can be found at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cbe/+packagebugs .

I would be pleased to get feedback about the packages either as bug reports in
launchpad, or on an appropriate mailing list (if cbe-oss-dev is inappropriate,
please use ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com).

  Matthias

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