Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking
On Jan 15, 2008 8:40 PM, Richard Mancusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2008 6:43 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: > > > On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: > > >> You should have to authenticate before modifying the network > > >> configuration. On my Hardy systems and a daily build of the Live CD, > > >> there is an "Unlock" button and selections remain greyed out until I > > >> unlock the application. If your system is fully up to date and the > > >> "Unlock" button is not there then you should submit a bug report. Your > > >> issues regarding changing the network configuration are probably a > > >> direct result of your not being authenticated. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > > > > > I'm up to date, and using the menus, I just get a full grayed window and > > > cant manage my networks options. > > > If I try the old Network Monitor 2.12.1, it just says that the interface > > > (either and both eth0 and eth1) doesnt exist. > > > > > > > > > > That sounds like bug 176060. Now that gnome-system-tools uses PolicyKit, you > > need to run it as a normal user, and not through gksu. Could you verify > > that you > > have network-manager-gnome 0.6.5-0ubuntu11, which fixed this issue, and that > > running 'gksu network-admin' keeps it greyed out, and that running > > 'network-admin' you can unlock it? > > > > Regards, > > Emilio > > > > Tonight's upgrade included several PolicyKit pkgs and I did verify > that I am running network-manager-gnome 0.6.5-0ubuntu11 and > network-manager 0.6.5-0ubuntu17. > > Now clicking on "Unlock" yields a window stating: > "Could not authenticate An unexpected error has occurred." > This occurs by simply clicking on the "Unlock" button - not given > the chance to enter a password. > > -rich > I need to reply to my own email to add info. I attempted to re-start a service and received the same error - so it has nothing to do with networking but rather authentication. You had already assumed that, I am simply proving it. System/Administration/Services click on "Unlock" and receive the following message Could not authenticate An unexpected error has occurred. -rich -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 10:08 PM: >> Now this is fine for my dell with nvidia driver, but I hope it works for >> others too. >> > didn't catch this, what model is your dell? mine is latitude d820, if > you're the same maybe we've identified a laptop-specific bug. I have an E1505 (aka 6400) with nvidia 7300 go video. regards, -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
Perhaps, there is Digikam which is really neat, but it's KDE based, so I would still stick with f-spot as default. After getting a little love from devs (that are already doing an awesome job) f-spot will rock! Le mardi 15 janvier 2008 à 14:10 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan a écrit : > Blue Marine is one program I've seen recommended for proper handling > of EXIF data (that's the metadata I was trying to remember). I was > looking for an alternative to F-Spot because of the poor EXIF-handling > at the time. > > On Jan 15, 2008 1:56 PM, Kevin Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:34 +0100, Milan wrote: > > Kevin Fries wrote: > > > This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of > maybe a > > > compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) > but not based > > > on Mono. Maybe something like Blue Marine? > > > > > > http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/ > > > > > > Just a thought. They already package a DEB file and it is > about 30M, > > > not sure how big the other packages are. > > > > > > > > Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to > stabilize this > > development version... > > > I personally don't have a problem with Mono or Java. Both are > excellent > technologies in my book. Each has advantages and > disadvantages like any > technology. But when I last defended Mono and F-Spot, I got > jumped like > a gang member in the wrong neighborhood. > > Just trying to show options here. Looking for solutions to > defuse the > argument that erupted last time this was brought up, before > the argument > erupts again. Hoping to show that while gThumb is a poor > product on its > best days (editorial, I know, but face it, its not good), but > F-Spot and > Mono are not our only solutions. There are other programs out > there > that are of some serious quality. > > The BM page says that the product is not quite of release > quality, but > lets be real, its not of a professional release quality. For > the > average consumer, its perfectly stable enough. I would not > want to rely > on this if I was a professional photographer until a few bugs > were > worked out. But this product has no more bugs than the > average FOSS > product. > > BTW, I have just briefly played with Blue Marine, and that is > one hell > of a program. The type that really takes a run away from the > second > rate Windows based graphical tools, and right at the far > superior Mac > based one. It would definitely be a capabilities upgrade from > anything > in the repos now. If nothing else, putting that in Multiverse > would not > be the dumbest idea I heard. > > -- > Kevin Fries > Senior Linux Engineer > Computer and Communications Technology, Inc > A Division of Japan Communications Inc. > > -- > > > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > > > > > -- > Mackenzie Morgan > Linux User #432169 > ACM Member #3445683 > http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com <-my blog of Ubuntu stuff > apt-get moo signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 21:18 -0500, Paul S wrote: > Paul S said the following on 01/15/2008 07:18 PM: > > Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: > ok, now I get it .. since these are based on not being false, they are > set. and "sudo lshal | grep quirk" shows that they are not set to > false. So, I just have to rearrange the order of these lines like so, > and it works: > > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_BIOS" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-bios" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_MODE" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-mode" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_SUSPEND" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-suspend" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_ON" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-on" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RESET_BRIGHTNESS" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-reset-brightness" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VGA_MODE_3" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vga-mode3" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBE_POST" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbe-post" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBEMODE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbemode-restore" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBESTATE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbestate-restore" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RADEON_OFF" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-radeon-off" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_NONE" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS > --quirk-none" > > Now this is fine for my dell with nvidia driver, but I hope it works for > others too. > didn't catch this, what model is your dell? mine is latitude d820, if you're the same maybe we've identified a laptop-specific bug. m > regards, > > -- Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking
On Jan 15, 2008 6:43 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: > > On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: > >> You should have to authenticate before modifying the network > >> configuration. On my Hardy systems and a daily build of the Live CD, > >> there is an "Unlock" button and selections remain greyed out until I > >> unlock the application. If your system is fully up to date and the > >> "Unlock" button is not there then you should submit a bug report. Your > >> issues regarding changing the network configuration are probably a > >> direct result of your not being authenticated. > >> > >> Thanks, > > > > I'm up to date, and using the menus, I just get a full grayed window and > > cant manage my networks options. > > If I try the old Network Monitor 2.12.1, it just says that the interface > > (either and both eth0 and eth1) doesnt exist. > > > > > > That sounds like bug 176060. Now that gnome-system-tools uses PolicyKit, you > need to run it as a normal user, and not through gksu. Could you verify that > you > have network-manager-gnome 0.6.5-0ubuntu11, which fixed this issue, and that > running 'gksu network-admin' keeps it greyed out, and that running > 'network-admin' you can unlock it? > > Regards, > Emilio > Tonight's upgrade included several PolicyKit pkgs and I did verify that I am running network-manager-gnome 0.6.5-0ubuntu11 and network-manager 0.6.5-0ubuntu17. Now clicking on "Unlock" yields a window stating: "Could not authenticate An unexpected error has occurred." This occurs by simply clicking on the "Unlock" button - not given the chance to enter a password. -rich -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Paul S said the following on 01/15/2008 07:18 PM: > Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: >> take a look >> at /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux & related >> scripts -- the $QUIRK variable is built up in these scripts >> progressively; all you would need to do is to alter the order in which >> that's done. you might also want to submit a patch or at least >> bugreport to upstream, as i imagine no one's especially wedded to the >> order of those quirks. > > I see this section: > > # Make a suitable command line argument so that the tools can do the > correct > # quirks for video resume. > # Passing the quirks to the tool allows the tool to not depend on HAL > for data. > QUIRKS="" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_BIOS" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-bios" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_MODE" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-mode" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_SUSPEND" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-suspend" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_ON" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-on" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBESTATE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbestate-restore" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBEMODE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbemode-restore" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VGA_MODE_3" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vga-mode3" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBE_POST" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbe-post" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RADEON_OFF" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-radeon-off" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RESET_BRIGHTNESS" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-reset-brightness" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_NONE" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS > --quirk-none" ok, now I get it .. since these are based on not being false, they are set. and "sudo lshal | grep quirk" shows that they are not set to false. So, I just have to rearrange the order of these lines like so, and it works: [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_BIOS" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-bios" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_MODE" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-mode" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_SUSPEND" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-suspend" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_ON" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-on" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RESET_BRIGHTNESS" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-reset-brightness" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VGA_MODE_3" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vga-mode3" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBE_POST" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbe-post" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBEMODE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbemode-restore" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBESTATE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbestate-restore" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RADEON_OFF" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-radeon-off" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_NONE" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-none" Now this is fine for my dell with nvidia driver, but I hope it works for others too. regards, -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
> If I suspend my laptop, I'll lose my mouse pointer. The mouse action > is still there, but no mouse pointer, so I cant see what I'm > clicking. In a side note, my notebook, an Asus G1 suspends and hibernates nicely with hardy. []s Adilson. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:18 -0500, Paul S wrote: > Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: > > paul, how did you find out that the suspend button initiates quirks in > > the order you describe? > > I edited /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux and > added a line to log the value of $QUIRKS when it was called, as follows: > > # We only support pm-utils > if [ -x "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend" ] ; then > logger "pm-utils quirks are $QUIRKS" > /usr/sbin/pm-suspend $QUIRKS > RET=$? > > then, after suspending, I just grepped /var/log/messages for "quirks" > and it was there, like this: > > paul :~$ grep quirks /var/log/messages > Jan 15 09:32:10 localhost logger: pm-suspend quirks are --quirk-dpms-on > --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vga-mode3 > --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-reset-brightness > > then, I copied the quirks options and pasted into a terminal after "sudo > pm-suspend" and found it fails to resume (screen stays black) > nice. so i guess this ocnfirms that the gnome power button uses pm-utils, but i wish i could see how the hal script is called. > >> Now that I know that, is there someplace I can config which quirks are > >> called and in what order? > >> > >> > > take a look > > at /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux & related > > scripts -- the $QUIRK variable is built up in these scripts > > progressively; all you would need to do is to alter the order in which > > that's done. you might also want to submit a patch or at least > > bugreport to upstream, as i imagine no one's especially wedded to the > > order of those quirks. > > I see this section: > > # Make a suitable command line argument so that the tools can do the correct > # quirks for video resume. > # Passing the quirks to the tool allows the tool to not depend on HAL > for data. > QUIRKS="" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_BIOS" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-bios" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_MODE" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-mode" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_SUSPEND" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-suspend" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_ON" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-on" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBESTATE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbestate-restore" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBEMODE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbemode-restore" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VGA_MODE_3" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vga-mode3" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBE_POST" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbe-post" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RADEON_OFF" = "true" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-radeon-off" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RESET_BRIGHTNESS" != "false" ] && > QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-reset-brightness" > [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_NONE" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS > --quirk-none" > > but this script requires you to know the value of each of the variables, > and I haven't been able to find those variables anywhere. I can usually > follow bash scripts, but have no experience with C/C++ code, which may > be where they are set. > i don't see either. i tried this: $ dpkg -L hal | xargs grep "HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_BIOS" but didn't get any helpful hits. that shouldn't matter though -- presumably the relevant variables *are* set, so the quirk gets added; by changing the order of the tests, the ordering of the quirks also ought to be affected. give it a try! matt > Do you know? > > > -- Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking
(``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: > On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: >> You should have to authenticate before modifying the network >> configuration. On my Hardy systems and a daily build of the Live CD, >> there is an "Unlock" button and selections remain greyed out until I >> unlock the application. If your system is fully up to date and the >> "Unlock" button is not there then you should submit a bug report. Your >> issues regarding changing the network configuration are probably a >> direct result of your not being authenticated. >> >> Thanks, > > I'm up to date, and using the menus, I just get a full grayed window and cant > manage my networks options. > If I try the old Network Monitor 2.12.1, it just says that the interface > (either and both eth0 and eth1) doesnt exist. > > That sounds like bug 176060. Now that gnome-system-tools uses PolicyKit, you need to run it as a normal user, and not through gksu. Could you verify that you have network-manager-gnome 0.6.5-0ubuntu11, which fixed this issue, and that running 'gksu network-admin' keeps it greyed out, and that running 'network-admin' you can unlock it? Regards, Emilio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: > paul, how did you find out that the suspend button initiates quirks in > the order you describe? I edited /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux and added a line to log the value of $QUIRKS when it was called, as follows: # We only support pm-utils if [ -x "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend" ] ; then logger "pm-utils quirks are $QUIRKS" /usr/sbin/pm-suspend $QUIRKS RET=$? then, after suspending, I just grepped /var/log/messages for "quirks" and it was there, like this: paul :~$ grep quirks /var/log/messages Jan 15 09:32:10 localhost logger: pm-suspend quirks are --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-reset-brightness then, I copied the quirks options and pasted into a terminal after "sudo pm-suspend" and found it fails to resume (screen stays black) >> Now that I know that, is there someplace I can config which quirks are >> called and in what order? >> >> > take a look > at /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux & related > scripts -- the $QUIRK variable is built up in these scripts > progressively; all you would need to do is to alter the order in which > that's done. you might also want to submit a patch or at least > bugreport to upstream, as i imagine no one's especially wedded to the > order of those quirks. I see this section: # Make a suitable command line argument so that the tools can do the correct # quirks for video resume. # Passing the quirks to the tool allows the tool to not depend on HAL for data. QUIRKS="" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_BIOS" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-bios" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_S3_MODE" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-s3-mode" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_SUSPEND" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-suspend" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_DPMS_ON" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-dpms-on" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBESTATE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbestate-restore" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBEMODE_RESTORE" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbemode-restore" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VGA_MODE_3" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vga-mode3" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_VBE_POST" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-vbe-post" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RADEON_OFF" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-radeon-off" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_RESET_BRIGHTNESS" != "false" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-reset-brightness" [ "$HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_NONE" = "true" ] && QUIRKS="$QUIRKS --quirk-none" but this script requires you to know the value of each of the variables, and I haven't been able to find those variables anywhere. I can usually follow bash scripts, but have no experience with C/C++ code, which may be where they are set. Do you know? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 January 2008 19:10:49 Matt Price wrote: > hmmm... fooling around, i find that i can suspend pretty reliably from the > command line > sudo pm-suspend > > but that the gnome-power-manager dialog reliably fails to resume; this > despitethe fact that it seemsto be using pm-suspend, as it writes a > suspend log to /var/log/pm-suspend. not sure what's going on there. > > matt If I suspend my laptop, I'll lose my mouse pointer. The mouse action is still there, but no mouse pointer, so I cant see what I'm clicking. - -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHjUtvcV4wzCrhCcoRAkPKAJ9fbDSu5OEqL3qg9f/60gdNO9HSCACg4L+J pfnvFfim69Snjlf2qXylUYE= =hNot -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 06:02 PM: > Though, having said that, I have found various issues - I've just > uploaded a new pm-utils. It'd be nice to know if it worked for you. > OK, I'm updating daily, so when it hits the repos I'll get it, unless you have an advance copy you can send me. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 05:42 PM: > I can't see how this can happen - the same environment variables are set > in both cases independent of the ordering. Is this repeatable? > Yes, many times. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: > You should have to authenticate before modifying the network > configuration. On my Hardy systems and a daily build of the Live CD, > there is an "Unlock" button and selections remain greyed out until I > unlock the application. If your system is fully up to date and the > "Unlock" button is not there then you should submit a bug report. Your > issues regarding changing the network configuration are probably a > direct result of your not being authenticated. > > Thanks, I'm up to date, and using the menus, I just get a full grayed window and cant manage my networks options. If I try the old Network Monitor 2.12.1, it just says that the interface (either and both eth0 and eth1) doesnt exist. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 23:02 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Though, having said that, I have found various issues - I've just > uploaded a new pm-utils. It'd be nice to know if it worked for you. > i'll give it a try myself soon as it hits the archive. matt > -- > Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Though, having said that, I have found various issues - I've just uploaded a new pm-utils. It'd be nice to know if it worked for you. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
I can't see how this can happen - the same environment variables are set in both cases independent of the ordering. Is this repeatable? -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 16:30 -0500, Paul S wrote: > Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 01:59 PM: > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:13AM -0500, Paul S wrote: > > > >> This is not good. I had a kernel update so had to reboot anyway. Now > >> I find that even Fn-Esc does not work. The only way to suspend is by > >> konsole with "sudo pm-suspend" and it still works ok. The > >> kde-power-manager menu "suspend" does not work. either nor the keyboard > >> "sleep" button. > > > > Ok. Sounds like KDE is failing to respond to the sleep button signal. > > I'm afraid I've no expertise beyond this point. > > > > Ok, I switched over to gdm and gnome and have similar problems. It > suspends but does not resume. So, I've been trying to work it out in a > terminal. What I've discovered is that I can enter this and it works: > > sudo pm-suspend --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vga-mode3 > --quirk-reset-brightness --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-vbemode-restore > --quirk-vbestate-restore > > However, when I hit the suspend button, hal initiates the quirks in this > different order: > > --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore > --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-reset-brightness > paul, how did you find out that the suspend button initiates quirks in the order you describe? > > Now that I know that, is there someplace I can config which quirks are > called and in what order? > > take a look at /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux & related scripts -- the $QUIRK variable is built up in these scripts progressively; all you would need to do is to alter the order in which that's done. you might also want to submit a patch or at least bugreport to upstream, as i imagine no one's especially wedded to the order of those quirks. matt > -- Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
which package owns the gnome quit button?
as mentioned earlier in this thread, suspend now works for me using pm-suspend, hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ram.conf, and shutting laptop lid (also works from the gdm login menu); but it fails if i try to quit from the gnome system menu or the gnome panel 'quit' button. i'm just trying to find out who owns these applications so i can look at the code to see what process they invoke to initiate a suspend or hibernate event. anyone know offhand? thanks as always, matt > > > > -- > Matt Price > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 01:59 PM: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:13AM -0500, Paul S wrote: > >> This is not good. I had a kernel update so had to reboot anyway. Now >> I find that even Fn-Esc does not work. The only way to suspend is by >> konsole with "sudo pm-suspend" and it still works ok. The >> kde-power-manager menu "suspend" does not work. either nor the keyboard >> "sleep" button. > > Ok. Sounds like KDE is failing to respond to the sleep button signal. > I'm afraid I've no expertise beyond this point. > Ok, I switched over to gdm and gnome and have similar problems. It suspends but does not resume. So, I've been trying to work it out in a terminal. What I've discovered is that I can enter this and it works: sudo pm-suspend --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-reset-brightness --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vbestate-restore However, when I hit the suspend button, hal initiates the quirks in this different order: --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-reset-brightness so, if I try it in a terminal, it suspends but does not resume (same result as suspend button): sudo pm-suspend --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-reset-brightness Now, I believe the problem is that my nvidia driver does not support the vbetool. But, why it works in the different order is puzzling to me. Did you know that order matters? Also, I have tried and successfully resumed from: paul :~$ sudo pm-suspend --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-reset-brightness and successfully from: paul :~$ sudo pm-suspend --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-reset-brightness --quirk-vbe-post This makes me think that --quirk-vbe-post is the problem, but only is ok in certain orders. I'm not sure I have enough time to try all the combinations? Also, I have gone back to kdm and kde and have the same experience in the terminal, so there's not a problem in kde Now that I know that, is there someplace I can config which quirks are called and in what order? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
Blue Marine is one program I've seen recommended for proper handling of EXIF data (that's the metadata I was trying to remember). I was looking for an alternative to F-Spot because of the poor EXIF-handling at the time. On Jan 15, 2008 1:56 PM, Kevin Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:34 +0100, Milan wrote: > > Kevin Fries wrote: > > > This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of maybe a > > > compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not > based > > > on Mono. Maybe something like Blue Marine? > > > > > > http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/ > > > > > > Just a thought. They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M, > > > not sure how big the other packages are. > > > > > > > > Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to stabilize this > > development version... > > I personally don't have a problem with Mono or Java. Both are excellent > technologies in my book. Each has advantages and disadvantages like any > technology. But when I last defended Mono and F-Spot, I got jumped like > a gang member in the wrong neighborhood. > > Just trying to show options here. Looking for solutions to defuse the > argument that erupted last time this was brought up, before the argument > erupts again. Hoping to show that while gThumb is a poor product on its > best days (editorial, I know, but face it, its not good), but F-Spot and > Mono are not our only solutions. There are other programs out there > that are of some serious quality. > > The BM page says that the product is not quite of release quality, but > lets be real, its not of a professional release quality. For the > average consumer, its perfectly stable enough. I would not want to rely > on this if I was a professional photographer until a few bugs were > worked out. But this product has no more bugs than the average FOSS > product. > > BTW, I have just briefly played with Blue Marine, and that is one hell > of a program. The type that really takes a run away from the second > rate Windows based graphical tools, and right at the far superior Mac > based one. It would definitely be a capabilities upgrade from anything > in the repos now. If nothing else, putting that in Multiverse would not > be the dumbest idea I heard. > > -- > Kevin Fries > Senior Linux Engineer > Computer and Communications Technology, Inc > A Division of Japan Communications Inc. > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com <-my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:13AM -0500, Paul S wrote: > This is not good. I had a kernel update so had to reboot anyway. Now > I find that even Fn-Esc does not work. The only way to suspend is by > konsole with "sudo pm-suspend" and it still works ok. The > kde-power-manager menu "suspend" does not work. either nor the keyboard > "sleep" button. Ok. Sounds like KDE is failing to respond to the sleep button signal. I'm afraid I've no expertise beyond this point. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:34 +0100, Milan wrote: > Kevin Fries wrote: > > This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of maybe a > > compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based > > on Mono. Maybe something like Blue Marine? > > > > http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/ > > > > Just a thought. They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M, > > not sure how big the other packages are. > > > > > Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to stabilize this > development version... I personally don't have a problem with Mono or Java. Both are excellent technologies in my book. Each has advantages and disadvantages like any technology. But when I last defended Mono and F-Spot, I got jumped like a gang member in the wrong neighborhood. Just trying to show options here. Looking for solutions to defuse the argument that erupted last time this was brought up, before the argument erupts again. Hoping to show that while gThumb is a poor product on its best days (editorial, I know, but face it, its not good), but F-Spot and Mono are not our only solutions. There are other programs out there that are of some serious quality. The BM page says that the product is not quite of release quality, but lets be real, its not of a professional release quality. For the average consumer, its perfectly stable enough. I would not want to rely on this if I was a professional photographer until a few bugs were worked out. But this product has no more bugs than the average FOSS product. BTW, I have just briefly played with Blue Marine, and that is one hell of a program. The type that really takes a run away from the second rate Windows based graphical tools, and right at the far superior Mac based one. It would definitely be a capabilities upgrade from anything in the repos now. If nothing else, putting that in Multiverse would not be the dumbest idea I heard. -- Kevin Fries Senior Linux Engineer Computer and Communications Technology, Inc A Division of Japan Communications Inc. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
Kevin Fries wrote: > This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of maybe a > compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based > on Mono. Maybe something like Blue Marine? > > http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/ > > Just a thought. They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M, > not sure how big the other packages are. > > Is Java really better than Mono? Not speaking of needs to stabilize this development version... -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
resending to group, cuz I accidentally replied to poster On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 15:41 +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > We feel the opposite, that f-spot has a better user experience. This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of maybe a compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based on Mono. Maybe something like Blue Marine? http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/ Just a thought. They already package a DEB file and it is about 30M, not sure how big the other packages are. -- Kevin Fries Senior Linux Engineer Computer and Communications Technology, Inc A Division of Japan Communications Inc. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 10:38 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > I outlined in my specification > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default) how gThumb has more > functionality than F-Spot, is more efficient memory wise and takes up > less space. > We feel the opposite, that f-spot has a better user experience. Scott -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
I outlined in my specification (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default) how gThumb has more functionality than F-Spot, is more efficient memory wise and takes up less space. Thanks, Bryan On Jan 15, 2008 8:19 AM, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote: > > > On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the > default > > > install (ubuntu desktop package). Is their an application that has > been > > > added to help people organize home movies that I missed? > > > > To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not > > movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?). > > > Not to mention that nautilus and eog already handle 95% of gthumb's > functionality. You can open a folder in Nautilus, browse the files > within it, double-click to make them bigger and use Next/Previous > buttons to move between them at full size. > > Scott > -- > Scott James Remnant > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 09:00 AM: > acpid needs restarting, so rebooting is the easiest way to do that. If > Fn+Esc no longer works, there's some sort of KDE issue. This is not good. I had a kernel update so had to reboot anyway. Now I find that even Fn-Esc does not work. The only way to suspend is by konsole with "sudo pm-suspend" and it still works ok. The kde-power-manager menu "suspend" does not work. either nor the keyboard "sleep" button. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 08:25:38AM -0500, Paul S wrote: > but same result .. /var/log/pm-suspend.log does not change, suspend / > resume work only from laptop Fn-Esc, not kde-power-manager menu or usb > keyboard sleep button and no "logger" message in /var/log/messages. > > Do I need to reboot after changing that file? If so, I did not. acpid needs restarting, so rebooting is the easiest way to do that. If Fn+Esc no longer works, there's some sort of KDE issue. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Main inclusion for transmission, vinagre and cheese
hi, On Di, 2008-01-15 at 14:13 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote: > Hello, > > After it was decided that ubuntu would ship transmission and vinagre > in hardy, these were directly moved from universe to main. Cheese is > also new in main. I couldn't find main inclusion reports for these > packages. Even though it is already decided to go with these programs, > shouldn't these programs go through the usual main inclusion process > first? yes, especially since the missing deps for vinagre now break the metapackages and daily builds (i.e. libgtk-vnc in case of vinagre) ciao oli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 07:12 AM: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 09:17:29PM -0500, Paul S wrote: > >> Since kde-power-manager won't work and my usb keyboard sleep button >> doesn't work, I tried the Fn-Esc key combo on the laptop, which is the >> suspend key combo. The laptop suspended and resumed fine. Now, when I >> look at /var/log/messages, there is no line from the logger that I >> inserted above. Also, when I look at /var/log/pm-suspend.log, it never >> changed from the previous suspend. So, it appears something else is >> functioning to suspend, other than pm-utils via hal. > > Yeah, something's clearly catching that. Can you try changing > /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn to call sleepbtn.sh and not sleep.sh? > paul :/etc/acpi/events$ cat sleepbtn # /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn # Called when the user presses the sleep button event=button[ /]sleep action=/etc/acpi/sleep.sh changed: paul :/etc/acpi/events$ sudo nano sleepbtn paul :/etc/acpi/events$ cat sleepbtn # /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn # Called when the user presses the sleep button event=button[ /]sleep action=/etc/acpi/sleepbtn.sh but same result .. /var/log/pm-suspend.log does not change, suspend / resume work only from laptop Fn-Esc, not kde-power-manager menu or usb keyboard sleep button and no "logger" message in /var/log/messages. Do I need to reboot after changing that file? If so, I did not. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote: > On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default > > install (ubuntu desktop package). Is their an application that has been > > added to help people organize home movies that I missed? > > To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not > movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?). > Not to mention that nautilus and eog already handle 95% of gthumb's functionality. You can open a folder in Nautilus, browse the files within it, double-click to make them bigger and use Next/Previous buttons to move between them at full size. Scott -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Main inclusion for transmission, vinagre and cheese
Hello, After it was decided that ubuntu would ship transmission and vinagre in hardy, these were directly moved from universe to main. Cheese is also new in main. I couldn't find main inclusion reports for these packages. Even though it is already decided to go with these programs, shouldn't these programs go through the usual main inclusion process first? Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default > install (ubuntu desktop package). Is their an application that has been > added to help people organize home movies that I missed? To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?). Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 15, 2008 12:39 PM, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And next time you find a bug in brasero not fixed yet you will advice > switching to yet another software? No of course not. This is only one of the many issues mentioned earlier. Have you read my first email? Besides that, development of brasero is very active, with bugs like these getting fixed very fast. > That's not really a constructive comment. Why? > The bug has no duplicate, The amount of duplicates doesn't say anything. This bug is not likely to occur often, but when it happens, you have wasted a cd or dvd. This is just something basic that applications should get right. > no comment since it has been opened Plenty of comments in the upstream bug report. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344949 Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 09:17:29PM -0500, Paul S wrote: > Since kde-power-manager won't work and my usb keyboard sleep button > doesn't work, I tried the Fn-Esc key combo on the laptop, which is the > suspend key combo. The laptop suspended and resumed fine. Now, when I > look at /var/log/messages, there is no line from the logger that I > inserted above. Also, when I look at /var/log/pm-suspend.log, it never > changed from the previous suspend. So, it appears something else is > functioning to suspend, other than pm-utils via hal. Yeah, something's clearly catching that. Can you try changing /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn to call sleepbtn.sh and not sleep.sh? -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
(no need to copy me on reply I'm subscribed to the list) Le mardi 15 janvier 2008 à 10:52 +0100, Wouter Stomp a écrit : > On Jan 15, 2008 12:33 AM, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's rather a small bug and likely easy to fix, the software just need > > to send a signal over dbus > > > > No matter how easy it is to fix, that is irrelevant when it isn't > done. There has been an open bug report on that for 18 months. And next time you find a bug in brasero not fixed yet you will advice switching to yet another software? That's not really a constructive comment. The bug has no duplicate, no comment since it has been opened and no new subscriber, it doesn't look like an issue really annoying users and such not a priority to be worked Sebastien Bacher -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 15, 2008 12:33 AM, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would not consider features like inhibiting Gnome Power Manager from > > suspending while burning niche, that is something that should just > > work. > > That's rather a small bug and likely easy to fix, the software just need > to send a signal over dbus > No matter how easy it is to fix, that is irrelevant when it isn't done. There has been an open bug report on that for 18 months. Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
