Re: Automatically sync new packages until feature freeze
On 2008-01-20 23:19:58 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea, but what about doing the same for > packages which aren't a new upstream release? If the Debian maintainer > uploaded a new debian-specific version, it's likely to be a bug-fixing > upload. It might be harder to automatize, but still... The new revision might introduce a versioned build-dependency on an other package with a new upstream version and we would either have to complete the transition or undo the change. Michael -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Request for inclusion into Ubuntu
Hello mailing list, I had an idea for ubuntu that I thought would be cool. I managed to start coding the idea on my own, and have posted the code here: https://launchpad.net/climl My question is this: How do I actually incorporate my work into ubuntu? Its one python script that starts a terminal based upon another input file. So one problem for me is getting the text input files associated with the python script. It seems ubuntu ignores file extensions. The main point of the question relates to how to actually get it into the next release of ubuntu, package wise and politically. If this list is not the right place to ask such questions, please point me in the right direction. Thanks, Dan PS - this email was sent twice. The first was mistakenly sent with an unregistered email address. Hopefully, this one will pass the automoderation. -- In science and in mind, the impossible and the hasn't-happened-yet are indistinguishable. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Automatically sync new packages until feature freeze
On 21/01/08 at 13:53 +0100, Michael Bienia wrote: > On 2008-01-20 23:19:58 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea, but what about doing the same for > > packages which aren't a new upstream release? If the Debian maintainer > > uploaded a new debian-specific version, it's likely to be a bug-fixing > > upload. It might be harder to automatize, but still... > > The new revision might introduce a versioned build-dependency on an > other package with a new upstream version and we would either have to > complete the transition or undo the change. Ok ; but, it isn't much harder to import new debian-specific versions provided that they are still installable and buildable in Ubuntu. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Open Movie Editor vs. Kdenlive.
Ok. We need a serious technical look at these two to replace PiTiVi in Ubuntu Studio-Hardy. Open Movie Editor - http://openmovieeditor.sourceforge.net KDEnlive - http://www.kdenlive.org I'd also like to reference - http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/consortium/2008-January/001842.html as having some good points. ie: OME has JACK support. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Open Movie Editor vs. Kdenlive.
KDEnlive is great, but it has two problems (for us). Firstly, it's a KDE app, and so doesn't integrate as well as it could into Gnome (having said that, neither does Open Movie Editor). Secondly, it tends to crash quite a lot at the moment. Despite those drawbacks, it is the best armature video editor we have IMHO. Open Movie Editor just isn't as good. And PiTiVi... well I've never been able to use it for anything, it crashes a lot too, but even when it's not crashing, it's not being any use, again, that's just MHO. On Jan 22, 2008 7:52 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok. We need a serious technical look at these two to replace PiTiVi in > Ubuntu Studio-Hardy. > > Open Movie Editor - http://openmovieeditor.sourceforge.net > > KDEnlive - http://www.kdenlive.org > > I'd also like to reference - > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/consortium/2008-January/001842.html > as having some good points. ie: OME has JACK support. > > -Cory \m/ > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Slingshot - a unique game everyone enjoys - and it's free :-) http://www.slingshot-game.org -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Request for inclusion into Ubuntu
Linux uses the file's MIME Type instead of just trusting the file extension (which are often changed in the Windows world by virus-writers to get people to install bad things). File extensions are mostly so the user knows what's going on. On Jan 21, 2008 9:16 AM, Daniel Hollocher < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its one python script that starts a terminal based upon another input > file. So one problem for me is getting the text input files associated with > the python script. It seems ubuntu ignores file extensions. > > -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com <-my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Automatically sync new packages until feature freeze
On Jan 22, 2008 1:51 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 21/01/08 at 13:53 +0100, Michael Bienia wrote: > > On 2008-01-20 23:19:58 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea, but what about doing the same for > > > packages which aren't a new upstream release? If the Debian maintainer > > > uploaded a new debian-specific version, it's likely to be a bug-fixing > > > upload. It might be harder to automatize, but still... > > > > The new revision might introduce a versioned build-dependency on an > > other package with a new upstream version and we would either have to > > complete the transition or undo the change. > > Ok ; but, it isn't much harder to import new debian-specific versions > provided that they are still installable and buildable in Ubuntu. It's precisely that test that makes it a manual process. For the most part, until feature freeze, any package that builds, installs, and doesn't break anything is suitable for sync, and several people watch the variation and request syncs to reduce variance. The downside of the manual process is that some packages do not get needed attention. After feature freeze, the RC bug checker is used to try to get all RC bugs closed in Debian also closed in Ubuntu, perhaps from a sync, maybe a merge, and sometimes pulling minimal patches to address the specific issue from the Debian package and adding them to the exisitng Ubuntu package. I believe the solution to this is more hands and more eyes. On the other hand, if there were sufficient resources available to autobuild all Debian updates for non-modified packages against Ubuntu and automate the installation/upgrade/removal testing, this could be a source of sync candidates (although it may still be nice to have a human check to make sure nothing went wrong). -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Open Movie Editor vs. Kdenlive.
On Jan 21, 2008 8:22 PM, Jonathan Musther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > KDEnlive is great, but it has two problems (for us). Firstly, it's a KDE > app, and so doesn't integrate as well as it could into Gnome (having said > that, neither does Open Movie Editor). Secondly, it tends to crash quite a > lot at the moment. A lot of crash causing bugs are fixed in svn. It would help if the Ubuntu package would be updated to the latest svn version. Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
