Re: UNDELETION EXT3 workaround
On Feb 19, 2008 1:12 AM, Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 22:49 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > It's part of why I don't use file managers--I don't get to reclaim > > hard drive space immediately. > > This seems to be a radical move when you can also just check the option > "Include a delete command that bypasses the Trash" in Nautilus. > Pressing the delete key with something highlighted uses the regular "send to trash" instead of that, though, I think. I fail to see how ignoring Nautilus's existence in favor of using one of the many terminals that litters my screen is "radical" though. Isn't the ability to see multiple xterms at once the reason X exists? Oh, and web browsing with color/images. -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com <-my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: UNDELETION EXT3 workaround
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 22:49 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > It's part of why I don't use file managers--I don't get to reclaim > hard drive space immediately. This seems to be a radical move when you can also just check the option "Include a delete command that bypasses the Trash" in Nautilus. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Too many icons in the Ubuntu menus?? ( repost)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael T wrote on 12/02/08 00:53: >... > Something which slightly annoys me in Ubuntu (and more generally in > KDE and Gnome) is the overuse of icons in menus. Most (if not all) GUI > style guidelines recommend only using icons in menus where they are > instantly recognisable to the user, so that they can identify the menu > entry from the icon faster than they would be able to read the menu > text. See for instance > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGMenus/chapter_17_section_3.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP3356-TPXREF116. > > In other situations, the icon slows the user down, as they will > automatically look at the icon before they read the text. If you > look at for example the "K" menu in Kubuntu, you will see that every > menu entry, including every application listed, has an icon next to > it, which to my mind makes it look somewhat unprofessional. > Does anyone else have thoughts on this? I realise of course that in > many cases this is something that can only be fixed upstream, but I > wanted to start a discussion somewhere :) >... I agree that Gnome applications use icons in many places, including buttons as well as menus, where text alone would be both more elegant and faster to understand. This seems to be an example of copying Microsoft (and, in the case of buttons, Borland) too closely. This will need to be fixed upstream, in the Gnome HIGs, in GTK stock items, and in individual applications. In the specific case of the Applications menu, however, an icon is an important part of an application's branding, so removing the icons would be weird. This still wouldn't solve the problem of the icon slowing people down, though. A difficult solution would be to abolish the idea of "applications" entirely, so that they would not need branding. An easier solution would be to present applications not in a menu, but in some other way where their icons are bigger and therefore more recognizable. Cheers - -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHuluQ6PUxNfU6ecoRAlicAJ4rR+JwjErrpGHoIxtik6PEEnW9SACdG9NU I/NXJ1L1FZRON2mXeEjnBNI= =woR1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: UNDELETION EXT3 workaround
Deleting anything with the GUI on GNOME automatically sends the stuff to the Trash. It's part of why I don't use file managers--I don't get to reclaim hard drive space immediately. On Feb 18, 2008 10:41 PM, Jared Schlicht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday February 17 2008 7:11:04 pm Vincent wrote: > > The Linux EXT3 file system zero's the file pointers when you delete a > > file. The EXT2-Undeletion command does not exist with-in EXT3. The > > following is a more modern solution to the problem. > > > > alias rm="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" > > alias rmdir="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" > > The goal with desktop distros seems to be "The user should not have to > touch > the command line". > > KDE has a trash system setup, I'm sure GNOME must as well. > > Both Konqueror and Dolphin (File managers in Kubuntu) default to move to > trash. > > If the user is using the command line, I'd hope they know what they're > doing. > > -Jared Schlicht > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com <-my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: UNDELETION EXT3 workaround
On Sunday February 17 2008 7:11:04 pm Vincent wrote: > The Linux EXT3 file system zero's the file pointers when you delete a > file. The EXT2-Undeletion command does not exist with-in EXT3. The > following is a more modern solution to the problem. > > alias rm="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" > alias rmdir="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" The goal with desktop distros seems to be "The user should not have to touch the command line". KDE has a trash system setup, I'm sure GNOME must as well. Both Konqueror and Dolphin (File managers in Kubuntu) default to move to trash. If the user is using the command line, I'd hope they know what they're doing. -Jared Schlicht -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
UNDELETION EXT3 workaround
The Linux EXT3 file system zero's the file pointers when you delete a file. The EXT2-Undeletion command does not exist with-in EXT3. The following is a more modern solution to the problem. alias rm="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" alias rmdir="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" Removed files go into GNOME trash, and the icon even show papers in the trash. You can click on the trash icon anytime you want to delete or un-delete a file or directory from the Trash. I installed the following aliases in the aliases section of ~/.bashrc for each user, except /root, where I specified --target-directory=/home/myaccount/.Trash/ as root should never login into GNOME. Now even if one has an accidental deletion of a file or entire directory of files, one can simply copy the files back into place in the future, from either the console or the trash icon on the task bar. In a world with 500 GIG hard drives, these aliases should probably be installed in all new ubuntu installations automatically, and advanced users can remove them if they so desire. The OS is not user friendly with-out an undeletion or recovery method. Regards, Vincent Chapman -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: problems after upgrading to hardy
On Feb 18, 2008 1:52 PM, Jared Schlicht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday February 18 2008 11:08:42 am Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > Over the week I did a Gusty -> Hardy upgrade on one of my boxes at home > and > > am running into some problems. Upon logging in, I receive a > notification > > that i am "Unable to contact HAL." I am not getting a network adress > and > > when I go to any of the system tools, I'm told that I am not allowed to > run > > the application. > > > > What files or info do I need to provide to solve the current state my > > computer is in? Any help would be greatly apprecaited. > > Without knowing more details, it could be the same issue I had with Gutsy. > After each install, I've had to run the following command to make HAL > work: > > sudo /usr/lib/hal/hald-generate-fdi-cache > > It won't make your system any worse off than it is now. It can take a > little > while, even on newer hardware, so be patient. > > -Jared Schlicht > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > after running hald-generate-fid-cache should i get some prompt or return? i type the command in and nothing on the system changes. upon loggin in i still receive an error "faled to initailize HAL" -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: problems after upgrading to hardy
On Monday February 18 2008 11:08:42 am Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Over the week I did a Gusty -> Hardy upgrade on one of my boxes at home and > am running into some problems. Upon logging in, I receive a notification > that i am "Unable to contact HAL." I am not getting a network adress and > when I go to any of the system tools, I'm told that I am not allowed to run > the application. > > What files or info do I need to provide to solve the current state my > computer is in? Any help would be greatly apprecaited. Without knowing more details, it could be the same issue I had with Gutsy. After each install, I've had to run the following command to make HAL work: sudo /usr/lib/hal/hald-generate-fdi-cache It won't make your system any worse off than it is now. It can take a little while, even on newer hardware, so be patient. -Jared Schlicht -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: problems after upgrading to hardy
Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Over the week I did a Gusty -> Hardy upgrade on one of my boxes at > home and am running into some problems. Upon logging in, I receive a > notification that i am "Unable to contact HAL." I am not getting a > network adress and when I go to any of the system tools, I'm told that > I am not allowed to run the application. > > What files or info do I need to provide to solve the current state my > computer is in? Any help would be greatly apprecaited. Maybe the upgrade did not properly install HAL, or 'missed' it? I would check for it's presence. If it's not there and you can't get an IP I would suggest running the livecd (which hopefully you can get an ip from) and chrooting in to your environment directly, and doing an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -- == Nick Stinemates ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://nick.stinemates.org AIM: Nick Stinemates MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
problems after upgrading to hardy
Over the week I did a Gusty -> Hardy upgrade on one of my boxes at home and am running into some problems. Upon logging in, I receive a notification that i am "Unable to contact HAL." I am not getting a network adress and when I go to any of the system tools, I'm told that I am not allowed to run the application. What files or info do I need to provide to solve the current state my computer is in? Any help would be greatly apprecaited. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: mulimonitor on intel using displayconfig-gtk (was Question on multi-head Dapper->Hardy upgrades)
Hi, Bryce. Sorry for the delay. I've been having trouble with Kmail in Hardy. On Friday 15 February 2008 19:17:05 Bryce Harrington wrote: > displayconfig-gtk determines your driver by parsing it from xorg.conf; > recent upstream changes make dexconf no longer list the driver (although > I think Timo restored that for Ubuntu recently). There is no mechanism > provided by Xorg to list the current driver, except booting X with no > config and scanning Xorg.0.log to see what it picked. (Upstream prefers > going in a direction where less is included in xorg.conf anyway.) That explains why it shows like that. But why was it kept in hardy like that? > Presently, the way to set up dual-monitor on Intel graphics hardware is > to use the xrandr command line tool. For instance, this is the line I > put in my .xprofile: > > xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --left-of DVI-0 --auto I've tried all commands I could find to run with xrandr, but --auto tends to have some strange resolution effects on my laptop. When external VGA is a bigger LCD and my laptop LCD LVDS, I lose the bottom part of my screen. Smaller CRT VGA (usually 1024x768 vs laptop 1280x800 12.1"), makes CRT lose a few pixels on each side. And this is as far as I can go, and only with clone screens. NEVER extended. Some times I just use "Grandr 0.2" applet to fix the resolution. Another thing that I notice is that some LCDs after running xrandr --auto, make my laptop go blank (I guess the equiv to xrandr --output LVDS off > See `man xrandr` for more info. Been there. > Alternately, you can configure your xrandr setup in your xorg.conf. For > details on doing this, here is a pretty good resource: > >http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 Thanks for the tip, but it would be nice to need to go to xorg.conf again. > With the above goals in mind, I've taken a shot at implementing a tool > derived from libxrandr, xrandr, and gnome-control-center's display > capplet: http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/display-config-0 It looks great. Cant wait for it. > I've only had 2 weeks so far working on it, but I hope to post a test > version by next week, once I have it functioning properly. (Currently > it's applying the changes properly, but then the monitors lose sync.) I'll be a nice and willing beta(or alpha) tester. > Bryce ps. anyone on the list know whats up with grandr? -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
