Re: nm-applet : Notification Area or Panel Applet ?
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 19:40 -0700, Jerone Young wrote: This nm-applet is also for configuration changes. Configuration's supposed to be done from the System menu, isn't it? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: nm-applet : Notification Area or Panel Applet ?
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 13:06 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: Phil Housley wrote on 2006-03-01: (permalink) As far as I can remember the reasons for nm-applet not being an applet: * It has to appear as needed, which an applet can't. And it *should* only appear as needed. At the moment it's present all the time—I don't think “yes, your wired connection *is* still working as usual” is noteworthy enough for a notification. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: nm-applet : Notification Area or Panel Applet ?
Zitat von thibaut bethune [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Therefore i wander if network manager should not be an applet instead of cluttering the notification area : actually network manager icon doesn't notify anything (it acts in a manner quite similar to Tomboy which is an applet. Besides it is called nm-applet !). AFAIK the decision to use the notification area was made since there is a standard for it on all desktop systems. So you can use the nm-applet in XFCE, GNOME and KDE. NM is not developed in the Ubuntu framework. You should contact the developers for such deep change requests. Cheers, Sebastian This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: LLVM 2.2
Ioannis Nousias schrieb: is there any chance in seeing LLVM 2.2 version in Hardy (released in February)? Current version is 1.8, which I think is from Q4 2006! Yes, if you do follow our documented procedures. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess A request to update the LLVM version has been in launchpad for some time now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm/+bug/136495 Please update this bug report accordingly Matthias -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: LLVM 2.2
Matthias Klose wrote: Ioannis Nousias schrieb: is there any chance in seeing LLVM 2.2 version in Hardy (released in February)? Current version is 1.8, which I think is from Q4 2006! Yes, if you do follow our documented procedures. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess A request to update the LLVM version has been in launchpad for some time now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm/+bug/136495 Please update this bug report accordingly Matthias That's too complicated for a user. I'm not sure how to proceed. I found this: http://packages.debian.org/sid/llvm but there are 3 source packages (llvm_2.2-5.dsc, llvm_2.2.orig.tar.gz, llvm_2.2-5.diff.gz). Do I use all of them with 'requestsync' ? Plus, I don't know if there are any changes in ubuntu and if so, why they should be dropped or not. if I didn't know any better, I'd say this is your way of telling the user to bugger off... -Ioannis -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Fwd: nm-applet : Notification Area or Panel Applet ?
1°) Jerone Young said This nm-applet is also for configuration changes. So while you may have a staic ip you may want to change it. Or maybe you decide to start using DHCP. This will allow you to easily see your ip address Actually you can have that configuration thing with an applet : see Tomboy applet or Glipper applet which can easily be accessed since it remains on the panel (but not in the notification area) look at this picture http://bp3.blogger.com/_TWgeucLxjj0/R-UzbI4sA0I/A1Q/8BIbhavAlxo/s1600-h/fricorder.png : Tomboy applet is always visible as an applet (top right of the screen), not in notification area 2°) Jerone Young said I actually think it makes since and eases network configuration for everyone You can say that for everything and then place all programs in notification area i guess. Maybe that should therefore be renamed into the configuration area ;-) nm-applet is an applet and notification area is for notification. Therefore the bug seems pretty obvious to me. Please, read again that HIG quote The utility of the notification area decreases rapidly when more than about four icons are always present. For this reason, icons that appear only temporarily in response to events are preferable. That seems to be a good principle to me. Besides, the problem not only concerns nm-applet, it concerns the whole system. If nm-applet starts to stuck in notification area, all programs will do the same. I guess this is why HIG stand for Thank you -- Forwarded message -- From: thibaut bethune [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22 mars 2008 04:48 Subject: nm-applet : Notification Area or Panel Applet ? To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com I'm running Hardy beta. Since Ubuntu 7.04 the network manager icon is stuck in my top panel. I don't see the interest of having such an icon in notification area since the icon never changes on my system (but i have no wireless connection) Therefore i wander if network manager should not be an applet instead of cluttering the notification area : actually network manager icon doesn't notify anything (it acts in a manner quite similar to Tomboy which is an applet. Besides it is called nm-applet !). Having network manager as an applet doesn't mean that it can't display ponctual pieces of information in notification area when needed (poping up a small transient balloon attached to a notification icon). for reference, here is the GNOME HIG quote : Using the Status Notification Area Using the status notification area applications can notify the user of non-critical events (for example, arrival of new email, or a chat 'buddy' having logged on), and expose the status of active system processes (for example, a printing document, or a laptop's battery charging). The utility of the notification area decreases rapidly when more than about four icons are always present. For this reason, icons that appear only temporarily in response to events are preferable. http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/desktop-notification-area.html -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
What happened to IcedTea in Hardy?
I installed Hardy about a week ago and installed from Hardy's repos: icedtea-java7-bin (7~b24-1.5+20080118-1) icedtea-java7-jre (7~b24-1.5+20080118-1) icedtea-java7-plugin (7~b24-1.5+20080118-1) But today I noticed that those packages are Not Installable as they have disappeared from the repos... Will they come back? Were they superseded by something else? (openjdk-6-*?) What is the recommended Java plugin for Mozilla now? (icedtea-gcjwebplugin?) CK -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Xubuntu: Preparing for March 26th Meeting
Cody A.W. Somerville wrote: Hello Everyone, Just a quick request to everyone planning to attend the March 26th Xubuntu community meeting [1]. If you could brainstorm and jot some ideas down prior to the meeting about: * What is the Xubuntu mission statement?; * What are Xubuntu's core objectives?; * What is the best strategy for achieving our goals?; and * How can we get more people involved and contributing to Xubuntu? I'm confident that our meeting will be highly successful and that we'll be able to come together as a community to reach an important level of consensus on some of these very important issues. If anyone has any comments, questions, or concerns about the meeting then please feel free to contact me or another member of the Xubuntu team [2]. Thank you, Cody A.W. Somerville Xubuntu Team Lead I'll be sure to be there. ;) Cody, as the current defacto lead (I hope the meeting cements that role) I think that points 12 should be defined by you and your core team. I'm not saying you shouldn't look for input from a wider community, just ultimately it's your show and you have to go with your gut. Everyone will have an opinion as to what Xubuntu *should* be. :P Points 34 I think can be much more up for debate and planning. I would also like to see a blog/planet/forums posting about this meeting because I feel this can be a significant part of Xubuntu development. So getting a wide word out I would think is best. -Cory \m/ PS: Now that I look under you name, are you officially the lead? A clear transfer of power been made somewhere? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
