xresprobe + Xorg configuration Problems

2008-04-03 Thread Bastian Wissler

Hello,

1.) On multihead graphics X -configure does not detect the available 2
Screens. Does anyone know why?


2.) Why is ddcprobe (of xresprobe 0.4.24ubuntu8) not capable of reading
the DDC on a DVI connected screen?
On OpenSuSEs hwinfo (very slow) there is an output with the correct data.

As attachment 3 outputs of ddcprobe (Intel DVI, Intel analog, Nvidia
DVI) on a intel865 chipset and on a nvidia chipset (VendorID: 10de
PCIID: 0240).


3.) Why is there a resolution like 1440x1440 in the output?
I can not think of a screen that supports this.


Thanks, Bastian.


vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: Brookdale-G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
vendor: Intel Corporation
product: Brookdale-G Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
memory: 8000kb
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x32k
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
mode: 132x25 (text)
mode: 132x43 (text)
mode: 132x50 (text)
mode: 132x60 (text)
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 640x480x64k
edid: 
edidfail

vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: Brookdale-G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
vendor: Intel Corporation
product: Brookdale-G Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
memory: 8000kb
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x32k
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
mode: 132x25 (text)
mode: 132x43 (text)
mode: 132x50 (text)
mode: 132x60 (text)
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 640x480x64k
edid: 
edid: 1 3
id: 7772
eisa: ABO7772
serial: 03d4
manufacture: 21 2003
input: composite sync, sync on green, digital signal.
screensize: 34 27
gamma: 2.20
dpms: RGB, active off, suspend, standby
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VGA 640x400, IBM)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (XGA2)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VGA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (Mac II, Apple)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (Mac II)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz Interlaced (8514A)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (VESA)
ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dtiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
monitorrange: 24-80, 56-75
monitorname: Acer AL712
monitorserial: ET701321003D
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM 
Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE 
Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) 
USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) 
USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) 
USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI 
Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface 
Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus 
Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
01:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): NEC Corporation uPD72874 IEEE1394 OHCI 1.1 3-port 
PHY-Link Ctrlr (rev 01)
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (CNR) 
Ethernet Controller (rev 81)
01:09.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus 
Controller (rev 01)
01:09.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus 
Controller (rev 01)

Test using ddcprobe ... on a ASUS Pundit with onboard ATI graphics
vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: NVIDIA
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
product: Crush50 Board - c51pv0 Chip Rev
memory: 32768kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x16
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x16
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1280x1024x16
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 320x200x64k
mode: 320x200x16m
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
edid: 
edidfail

The systems configuration

00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM 

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-04-03 Thread Matthew East
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Jan Claeys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Op maandag 31-03-2008 om 09:05 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George
  Farris:

  The best example lately is and I suppose it was a technical reason and
   so maybe not avoidable because of gvfs is:  moving the Removable
   drives and Media from the preferences.  That was really a horrible
   move. There aren't even drives in the menu any more and yet it still
   says Drives.

  +1

  Do you have a bug report # for that?

I filed an upstream one at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524195. No reply yet though.

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Re: Please keep the old IDE chipset drivers so that external CD writers can work

2008-04-03 Thread Matthew Garrett
No, something else is going on here. usb-storage is entirely unrelated 
to the IDE subsystem, so doesn't care whether you're using libata or 
not. Something else is triggering this bug.

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Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-04-03 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki

There is also a spec about cleaning up the menus:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited2

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Re: Please keep the old IDE chipset drivers so that external CD writers can work

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Knight
Wenzhuo Zhang wrote:
 Rick Knight wrote:

   
 boot the 2.6.22.14-generic kernel? I have a 4 year old Soyo motherboard 
 with Via chipset. Can I rebuild the kernel to get this older IDE 
 support? I can still boot into my Feisty kernel.
 


 If your chipset is not supported by libata, and you want rebuild the kernel
 to add the old drivers back, following the instructions on this web page:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile

 Wenzhuo


   
After doing a lot of comparing between my desktop at work, my notebook 
and my desktop at home, I'm beginning to think that the problem is the 
chipset in my desktop at home is not supported by libata. The 
motherboard in the PC is about 4 years old and has a Via VT82C568A/B, 
VT82C686A/B, VT823x/A/C chipset. When I boot the Feisty kernel, libata 
and ata_generic are being loaded but are not being used...

$ lsmod | grep ata
ata_generic9902   0
libata 125720 ata_generic
scsi_mod142348 libata,sg,st,aic7xxx,scsi_transport_spi

This tells me that libata is being using by ata_generic, but ata_generic 
isn't being used.

Also, lsmod shows that ide_disk is being used...

$ lsmod | grep ide
ide_cd   32672  0
cdrom   37664  1 ide_cd
ide_disk17024  5

I think this tells me that this kernel is using IDE_DISK and not 
ATA_GENERIC. Neither my desktop PC at work nor my notebook PC load the 
IDE_DISK. They both use ATA_PIIX. I've looked for a Via ATA module in 
the kernel source, but all I can find is SATA_VIA and this module is 
installed but doesn't seem to work  (I don't have serial ata drives).

Am I correct in this? If I am correct, how can I fix this problem? Is 
there a Via ata driver I'm not seeing?

Thanks,
Rick


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Re: Please keep the old IDE chipset drivers so that external CD writers can work

2008-04-03 Thread Wenzhuo Zhang
Matthew Garrett wrote:
 No, something else is going on here. usb-storage is entirely unrelated 
 to the IDE subsystem, so doesn't care whether you're using libata or 
 not. Something else is triggering this bug.

usb-storage is indeed unrelated to the IDE subsystem. However, both libata and 
usb-storage are implemented on top of the SCSI layer. You cannot reach the 
conclusion that this bug is completely unrelated to libata. On the contrary, I 
have a proof that it's related to libata to some degree: the workaround to this 
problem is to load IDE drivers instead of libata drivers. See bug #109211 for 
details. Probably libata steps on the foot of usb-storage.

My point is that the kernel team should look into this issue, because external 
CD/DVD writers are common hardware gadgets. If the bug cannot be resolved in 
time, just keep the old IDE drivers and let libata drivers take precedence. The 
problem Rick Knight's having with his motherboard is another reason to keep the 
old IDE drivers.

Wenzhuo


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Re: Please keep the old IDE chipset drivers so that external CD writers can work

2008-04-03 Thread Wenzhuo Zhang
Rick Knight wrote:
 I'll file the bug report as you, suggest, tonight or this weekend. But
 until I hear a respones to the bug report, is there anyway to force the
 newer kernel to setup drives by path with hdxn instead of sdxn? Also, if
 I do rebuild the kernel, which module(s) do I need to activate?

It seems to me that VIA82Cxxx chipset support is included in the Gutsy
kernel image. BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX is enabled as a module in
/boot/config-2.6.22-14-generic.

Try adding the following lines to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules:

via82cxxx
ide-disk
ide-cd
ide-generic

and then type:

$ sudo update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.22-14-generic

After that, reboot into the Gutsy kernel. If you can now successfully
boot the Gutsy kernel, libata is to blame. ;)

Wenzhuo

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Re: Please keep the old IDE chipset drivers so that external CD writers can work

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Knight
Wenzhuo Zhang wrote:
 Rick Knight wrote:
   
 I'll file the bug report as you, suggest, tonight or this weekend. But
 until I hear a respones to the bug report, is there anyway to force the
 newer kernel to setup drives by path with hdxn instead of sdxn? Also, if
 I do rebuild the kernel, which module(s) do I need to activate?
 

 It seems to me that VIA82Cxxx chipset support is included in the Gutsy
 kernel image. BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX is enabled as a module in
 /boot/config-2.6.22-14-generic.

 Try adding the following lines to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules:

 via82cxxx
 ide-disk
 ide-cd
 ide-generic

 and then type:

 $ sudo update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.22-14-generic

 After that, reboot into the Gutsy kernel. If you can now successfully
 boot the Gutsy kernel, libata is to blame. ;)

 Wenzhuo
   
Wenzhuo,

That's almost done it. I can see my two CD drives, /dev/hdc and 
/dev/hdd. It seems that something else is still missing, or maybe I need 
to take something out. Would anything else be effected by taking out libata?

Thanks again,
Rick Knight

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Re: Please keep the old IDE chipset drivers so that external CD writers can work

2008-04-03 Thread Wenzhuo Zhang
Rick Knight wrote:

 That's almost done it. I can see my two CD drives, /dev/hdc and
 /dev/hdd. It seems that something else is still missing, or maybe I need
 to take something out. Would anything else be effected by taking out
 libata?

/etc/initramfs-tools/modules should be empty by default. libata
drivers are loaded by the scripts in the initramfs image of Gutsy.
By adding IDE drivers to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, IDE drivers
get loaded first. Therefore you should remove anything related to
libata in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules.

If it fixes your problem, join my petition to keep the old IDE
chipset drivers. :) I suggest you try the Hardy beta desktop CD
to find out if the problem is still there.

http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta

Wenzhuo

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