Wingdings (or, Can YOU crack the code?)

2008-08-09 Thread Conrad Knauer
A bit of a follow-up to the Tahoma thread; as I've chronicled on
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/50529
I've discovered that MS Word allows you to embed certain fonts (based
on a 4-tier licensing scheme) inside files it creates; what's even
more interesting is that for the most 'permissive' embedibility, a
font "may be embedded in documents and permanently installed on the
remote system" :-)

When the Word97 viewer (what I tested, with Wine) opens the file, if
the font isn't already installed, it automatically extracts and
installs the font onto that computer in C:\windows\Fonts (yes, that
sounds like a security risk to me, but hey, its Microsoft, ne? :) So
here's the puzzle:

I created a RTF file with Wingdings embedded into it:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16679172/Wingdings.rtf
(with a legit copy of Word 97 I bought at a thrift shop for $2!  Take
*that* Microsoft! ;)

The Word 97 Viewer:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/wd97vwr32.exe
Outputs a TTF the exact same size as the orignal Windings font (though
not the same MD5SUM, curiously).

Now, inside the RTF is a very long batch of what looks like
hexadecimal which is the font in some sort of encoded/compressed
manner; the text itself is almost exactly the same filesize as the
font, so the conversion is hopefully not hugely complicated.  Indeed,
it seems that OO.o is working on this:

"Currently we do nothing with these (fairly rare) embedded fonts,
though if you are a developer you can examine
sw/source/filter/ww8/ww8par.cxx SwWW8ImplReader::CoreLoad and search
for the comment "experimental embedded ttf dumper" which shows how to
enable dumping the embedded font data."

http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=59931

But what would be really handy would be a little app to go something like:

$ rtf2ttf Wingdings.rtf

and out would pop the file :)  It would not be long then until
msttcorefonts could add Arial Narrow and Wingdings (maybe a new
package 'msttmorefonts' ;)

Can anyone here create such a thing?  As software libre, of course ;)

Sincerely,
Conrad Knauer

-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/8/9 Alexander Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Voice and video, period.

By the time Empathy starts to reach Pidgin stability and feature
parity otherwise, Pidgin probably has those too. Though it has been
long in the making, the current V&V branch seems to be functional.
Anyway, the more integrated approach of Empathy is interesting, but
probably delivers less for the casual user for now than Pidgin.

Among features I couldn't think of dropping (by switching from Pidgin
to Empathy by default) are file transfers and joining
password-protected chat rooms. Hmm, maybe bugs should be filed about
these in Launchpad, too?

As before, V&V can be done through Ekiga anyway as long as Pidgin
doesn't support it in a release.

-Timo

-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Alexander Jones
No offence Marcin, but Gadu-Gadu is really only an issue if you are
Polish. I don't think it's unreasonable to concede that such a small
percentage of our user base will, in the absolute worst scenario, just
have to install Pidgin themselves.

Otherwise, help them build a Gadu-Gadu connection manager that either
is or isn't built on Haze!

-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Marcin ‘Qrczak’ Kowalczyk
2008/8/9 Aurélien Naldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> Please not, until Empathy supports protocols that Pidgin supports
>> (I have gadu-gadu in mind, which is widely used in Poland).
>
> Empathy can use libpurple as backend for the protocols which don't
> have yet a telepathy backend.

Maybe it could, but it does not. It does not support gadu-gadu which
is supported by libpurple, even if telepathy-haze is installed.

By "support" I mean also sending & receiving the list of contacts to
the server, getting information about a user with the given ID, and
searching for a user matching the given search criteria. Pidgin does
this. Empathy does not support even basic talk.

It has a chance of doing better than Pidgin by supporting the same
sets of emoticons as the native gadu-gadu client (assuming that
copyright allows that).

-- 
Marcin Kowalczyk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/
-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/8/8 Laurent Bigonville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for
>> intrepid as default IM client.
>
> Please not, until Empathy supports protocols that Pidgin supports
> (I have gadu-gadu in mind, which is widely used in Poland).

Hi,

Empathy can use libpurple as backend for the protocols which don't
have yet a telepathy backend.

I for one am glad to see empathy get more attention as it seems highly
promising. I would not push for use it in a LTS relese as is but
intrepid is not.
Anyway, it will probably not satisfy everyone right now:
* pidgin and other clients will still be available for people who
dislike it. Someone who can't install pidgin aftewards should clearly
not test intrepid so early...
* pushing it forward in the preview releases doesn't mean that it will
be default in the final release

Best regards

-- 
Aurélien Naldi
-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Dylan McCall
> Alexander Jones wrote:
> > Voice and video, period.
> > 
> 
> amen.
> 
> whats the point of another chat client with no added functionality.

Empathy is without a doubt a richer platform than Pidgin in our case.
Because it is not intent on working across platforms, it can assume the
presence of certain technologies like dbus and for GTK to exist in all
its glory instead of relying on plugis (with their limitations) to
achieve that.

Also, while I am not sure 2.24 will see this, Empathy will be a very,
very important part of GNOME in the future. The Empathy developers are
working on a system with which a program can carry out online
communication via Empathy. This means very, very easy connection and
message handling both for the developer (a bit like a VFS), and
especially for the user who then just has to select a contact.

It makes a lot of sense to get this fitting into Ubuntu ahead of time,
because the full rollout of that functionality deserves to be very quick
and very significant.

So... kudos to this thought, and good luck. I'll keep an eye on this :)


Thanks,
-Dylan


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Marcin ‘Qrczak’ Kowalczyk
2008/8/8 Laurent Bigonville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for
> intrepid as default IM client.

Please not, until Empathy supports protocols that Pidgin supports
(I have gadu-gadu in mind, which is widely used in Poland).

-- 
Marcin Kowalczyk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/

-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread steve
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Alexander Jones wrote:
> Voice and video, period.
> 

amen.

whats the point of another chat client with no added functionality.





- --
Steve Reilly

http://reillyblog.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFIna4oUpqfZIdKFyERAosYAKDEquy+myNSqskIVvzKGcOzWkCXKQCdHSPL
/00LyEadAeoqwGJr37FEY+I=
=zL2w
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Brian Curtis
The main goal of any instant messaging program is to allow the user to talk
with friends and family around the world.  Empathy, from the brief
experience i've had, has that capability, as well as a multiple protocol
capabilities which doesn't limit who they can talk to at all.  I'm really
interested in the ability to integrate well with GNOME, but more importantly
the Voice/Video support.  I am a college student, and I have many friends
who own macs and they rave about the V/V support and how fun it is to use
all the time.  Having V/V to talk with family and friends from long
distances is really important to me.  Pidgin has evolved and has some great
plugins, but the fact that Empathy has V/V support is what draws me into it.

~Brian C.

Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.
--Wernher Von Braun
"The second law of thermodynamics: If you think things are in a mess now,
JUST WAIT!!"


On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Alexander Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Voice and video, period.
>
> --
> Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
> Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
>
-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-09 Thread Alexander Jones
Voice and video, period.

-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss


Re-encoding sample content with latest theora encoders

2008-08-09 Thread Onkar Shinde
Hi all,

I hope this is the right place to discuss the example content. This is
related to the video where Mr. Nelson Mandela explains meaning of
Ubuntu. As good as the video content is, the video quality is I
believe average at best.

Theora has improved really well in last year. I think we should take
advantage of the latest development in theora encoder [1] and
re-encode the video from original source to produce better looking
video.

[1] http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/35363.html


Onkar

-- 
Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list
Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss