Re: System-Administration cleanup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 23/10/08 14:37: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a design to combine the Preferences and Administration menus into something more wieldy. Isn't gnome-control-center the answer to this? ... The Control Center makes scanning the available settings easier, and avoids the increasingly-meaningless distinction between Preferences and Administration. And it saves two clicks (or one drag), compared with the Preferences/Administration menus, whenever you open the wrong settings window by mistake. However, the Control Center adds an extra click whenever you access any settings from it, because you need to close the Control Center once you've finished. And the Filter (eh?) searches only the names of the settings windows, not their contents or synonyms: for example searching for modem or wallpaper returns nothing except a shocked-looking yellow ball. Both these problems are solvable. Cheers - -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkBt4oACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecpbSACgypevTxe9pyowsAK6y2Y3hz+7 2GsAn1UJdxKW3YY3WO89YklVSwA1yTiQ =wjaD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: System-Administration cleanup
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 12:54 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: The Control Center makes scanning the available settings easier, and avoids the increasingly-meaningless distinction between Preferences and Administration. And it saves two clicks (or one drag), compared with the Preferences/Administration menus, whenever you open the wrong settings window by mistake. However, the Control Center adds an extra click whenever you access any settings from it, because you need to close the Control Center once you've finished. And the Filter (eh?) searches only the names of the settings windows, not their contents or synonyms: for example searching for modem or wallpaper returns nothing except a shocked-looking yellow ball. Both these problems are solvable. I saw this today as well: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2008-October/msg1.html I assume the shell is the same thing as the Control Center that you refer to? Thanks, James -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: System-Administration cleanup
Hi, On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew East wrote on 23/10/08 14:37: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a design to combine the Preferences and Administration menus into something more wieldy. Isn't gnome-control-center the answer to this? ... The Control Center makes scanning the available settings easier, and avoids the increasingly-meaningless distinction between Preferences and Administration. Right: that's what I like best about it. At the very least, even if its decided to keep the utilities in the menu rather than using the control center, the same structure in terms of categories of applications could be kept: this would have the benefit of reusing thinking and work done upstream. But my personal preference would be to have the control center and fix any problems in it. In the end, I guess all this discussion and work should take place directly upstream anyway, ideally. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: State of xserver-xorg-video-nv
Hi there, On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 13:10 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: If you have a patch from upstream that you can confirm fixes the issue, I can take a look, but otherwise you're a bit too late for intrepid which is already into RC freeze. I know I'm a bit late. I was hoping someone was going to fix them between beta and RC. I'm not a developer of any kind (but fear my 31337 perl skilzzz ;)) so I can't really help with any patches. Applying them and compiling shouldn't be a problem though. You're right that there's lots of -nv bugs; I've upstreamed several in recent weeks but they seem not to get attention upstream. On the other hand, -ati and -intel bugs do seem to get productive attention upstream, so I've focused my energies more towards those. I understand. If you would be willing to lend some time to assist with triaging and upstreaming -nv, I can provide mentoring. Pop into #ubuntu-x on IRC and flag me down. As to your particular bug, you're missing some important details needed for troubleshooting. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Reporting for tips on what to include in X bug reports. I will follow this Wiki and add the extra info. I'm not sure if I can help with triaging and stuff, but I'll try to contact you on IRC. Thanks, Mark Schouten -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: System-Administration cleanup
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 12:54 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: However, the Control Center adds an extra click whenever you access any settings from it, because you need to close the Control Center once you've finished. And the Filter (eh?) searches only the names of the settings windows, not their contents or synonyms: for example searching for modem or wallpaper returns nothing except a shocked-looking yellow ball. Both these problems are solvable. The filter also needs a clear icon, like the little broom in Rhythmbox. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: System-Administration cleanup
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:12 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 12:54 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: However, the Control Center adds an extra click whenever you access any settings from it, because you need to close the Control Center once you've finished. And the Filter (eh?) searches only the names of the settings windows, not their contents or synonyms: for example searching for modem or wallpaper returns nothing except a shocked-looking yellow ball. Both these problems are solvable. The filter also needs a clear icon, like the little broom in Rhythmbox. That's not just an icon, it's a button that clears the filter and shows you all items again. Probably quite useful, but maybe not very obvious. Thanks, James -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: System-Administration cleanup
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 19:20 +0100, James Westby wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:12 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 12:54 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: However, the Control Center adds an extra click whenever you access any settings from it, because you need to close the Control Center once you've finished. And the Filter (eh?) searches only the names of the settings windows, not their contents or synonyms: for example searching for modem or wallpaper returns nothing except a shocked-looking yellow ball. Both these problems are solvable. The filter also needs a clear icon, like the little broom in Rhythmbox. That's not just an icon, it's a button that clears the filter and shows you all items again. Probably quite useful, but maybe not very obvious. Eh, you got what I was talking about. Obviously a non-functional one wouldn't be too helpful! :P -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
