Re: Input Device Commented Out Lacks documentation

[Bryce Harrington]

Great, thank you Dan!

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:37:59AM -0500, Dan Colish wrote:
> Hey Bryce,
> 
> Not at all, I'm still converting my current xorg over to fdi, maybe my notes
> will be helpful. Mappings look fairly straight forward and I found a good
> thread in the forums that elaborates more on the subject.
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948154
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Bryce Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > Would you mind going ahead and sketching this documentation in?
> > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
> >
> > Bryce
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:21:45AM -0500, Dan Colish wrote:
> > > I think there should be a link placed in the xorg document when
> > > update-manager comments out an input device to the new fdi documentation.
> > It
> > > is hard to find that page in the wiki if you're not familiar with the
> > > details of the project. It is also frustrating to not know the proper way
> > to
> > > configure a system when the methods of configuration change.
> > >
> > > --Dan
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Re: Input Device Commented Out Lacks documentation

[Dan Colish]

Hey Bryce,

Not at all, I'm still converting my current xorg over to fdi, maybe my notes
will be helpful. Mappings look fairly straight forward and I found a good
thread in the forums that elaborates more on the subject.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948154

Dan

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Bryce Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Would you mind going ahead and sketching this documentation in?
> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
>
> Bryce
>
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:21:45AM -0500, Dan Colish wrote:
> > I think there should be a link placed in the xorg document when
> > update-manager comments out an input device to the new fdi documentation.
> It
> > is hard to find that page in the wiki if you're not familiar with the
> > details of the project. It is also frustrating to not know the proper way
> to
> > configure a system when the methods of configuration change.
> >
> > --Dan
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Re: Input Device Commented Out Lacks documentation

[Bryce Harrington]

Hi Dan,

Would you mind going ahead and sketching this documentation in?
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input

Bryce

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:21:45AM -0500, Dan Colish wrote:
> I think there should be a link placed in the xorg document when
> update-manager comments out an input device to the new fdi documentation. It
> is hard to find that page in the wiki if you're not familiar with the
> details of the project. It is also frustrating to not know the proper way to
> configure a system when the methods of configuration change.
> 
> --Dan

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Input Device Commented Out Lacks documentation

[Dan Colish]

I think there should be a link placed in the xorg document when
update-manager comments out an input device to the new fdi documentation. It
is hard to find that page in the wiki if you're not familiar with the
details of the project. It is also frustrating to not know the proper way to
configure a system when the methods of configuration change.

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Re: where's 3G?

[Siegfried-Angel]

2008/11/5 Peteris Krisjanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I could be wrong, but you should take a look into NetworkManager,
> which now handles all such devices.

Right. On Ubuntu, right click on nm-applet and choose "Edit connections".

> And, btw, "support" doesn't mean "support out of box". Install proper
> packages and you are set.

Yes, it actually does mean "out of the box". You just have to configure it :).


Note that this list is *not* for support.

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Re: Jaunty open for development

[Jim Legget]

As a very interested user of UBUNTU, I found the ability to easily network 
Linux and Windows machines is absent.
I have a LAN with 9 machines consisting of a mixture of UBUNTU Linux and 
Windows Vista / XP operating systems.
I have found there is too much hand editing of configuration files such as 
NSSWITCH.CONF, SMB.CONF and others to make it worthwhile. I haven't found a 
good 'Wizard' that is foolproof and easy to use in setting up a combined 
network. There are also many programs that do very similar things. 
Instructions are often lacking, for instance, in the SAMBA setup; the 
reference to EVERYBODY.. is EVERYBODY allowed or is EVERYBODY blocked? 
Sharing of periphials is also a problem.
The answers to questions such as these are not always easy to find.
I believe a release that focuses on these problems is due.
Which OS to use?  Sorry to say, problems such as these has  turned me off 
until a easy solution is at hand. At that time, I will use UBUNTU as a major 
OS.. It is just a plaything, a curiosity,  for me now.
You folks are doing a great job. I love the system save for the networking 
setup problem.


Jim Legget
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Re: where's 3G?

[Peteris Krisjanis]

I could be wrong, but you should take a look into NetworkManager,
which now handles all such devices.

And, btw, "support" doesn't mean "support out of box". Install proper
packages and you are set.

Cheers,
Peter :)

2008/11/5 jude ui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hi all!
>
> I've heard from your lastest relese announcement that ubuntu supports 3G...
>
> Where is the code for that? I've treid to find it on lanchpad...(however I
> really faild)..
>
> And how does ubuntu support 3G (this is probably a stupid question..)? is it
> drivers ,apps etc...
>
> And also - where is the java stack? How did you guys manage to get java
> working without actualy installing properity version of java?
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where's 3G?

[jude ui]

hi all!

I've heard from your lastest relese announcement that ubuntu supports 3G...

Where is the code for that? I've treid to find it on lanchpad...(however I
really faild)..

And how does ubuntu support 3G (this is probably a stupid question..)? is it
drivers ,apps etc...

And also - where is the java stack? How did you guys manage to get java
working without actualy installing properity version of java?
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Re: Jaunty open for development

[(``-_-´´) -- Fernando]

Olá Chris e a todos.

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 10:00:11 Chris Jones wrote:
> (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:
> > Also, UM must be intelligent enough to understand that the user is on the 
> > latest stable release and want to go to the devel one, and not migrate 
> > users from older releases to devel, when the user adds the -d. I remember 
> > following a bug on launchpad of users complying of that, and ended up on a 
> > devel release and not a stable one.
> 
> Why would you add -d and expect it to not upgrade you to a devel
> release? That's exactly what -d is for:
> 
>   -d, --devel-release   Check if upgrading to the latest devel release
> is possible
> 
> Perhaps you mean -c ?

You are right on both counts.
Didnt even know about -c.
But the bug IIRC was about -d. cant find it again.

Other then that, forget my comment. lol

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Re: Jaunty open for development

[Chris Jones]

Hi

(``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:
> Also, UM must be intelligent enough to understand that the user is on the 
> latest stable release and want to go to the devel one, and not migrate users 
> from older releases to devel, when the user adds the -d. I remember following 
> a bug on launchpad of users complying of that, and ended up on a devel 
> release and not a stable one.

Why would you add -d and expect it to not upgrade you to a devel
release? That's exactly what -d is for:

  -d, --devel-release   Check if upgrading to the latest devel release
is possible

Perhaps you mean -c ?

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Re: how to unsubscribe (was Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 24, Issue 9)

[(``-_-´´) -- Fernando]

Olá Tim e a todos.

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 08:17:53 Tim Williams wrote:
> i wish to unsubacribe from this mailing list i have tried using the website 
> but it wont work.

Here are your options:
 List-Unsubscribe: 
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Re: Jaunty open for development

[(``-_-´´) -- Fernando]

Olá Colin e a todos.

On Tuesday 04 November 2008 21:05:01 Colin Watson wrote:
> As ever, any developers wishing to take the plunge at this
> early stage should ensure that they are comfortable with recovering from
> anything up to complete system failure.

Any idea when will update-manager be patched to handle the migration, or shall 
we do it the "old fashion" way?

Also, UM must be intelligent enough to understand that the user is on the 
latest stable release and want to go to the devel one, and not migrate users 
from older releases to devel, when the user adds the -d. I remember following a 
bug on launchpad of users complying of that, and ended up on a devel release 
and not a stable one.

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Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 24, Issue 9

[Tim Williams]

i wish to unsubacribe from this mailing list i have tried using the website
but it wont work.

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> > > > hi,
> > > >
> > > > i just reported a bug on evolution
> > > > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/293046)
> > that,
> > > > on  reflection, i think might actually be a network-manager bug.  The
> > > > symptom in evolution is a hang while pinging imap server, which
> occurs
> > > > on laptop wakeup.  thinking about it, probably the problem isthat
> > > > network-manager isn't reporting the online status accurately, or
> > there's
> > > > a reace condition between evolution's pinging and network-manager's
> > > > reporting.  (though even so it seems to me that the ping process
> > > > shouldn't cause evolution to hang the way it does!).  Anyway, i'm
> > > > wondering if i can somehow monitor network-manager to see if it's
> > > > reporting its offline status in the way that evolutin expects it to.
> > > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > I think this would be a duplicate of bug 271894, a bug I filed
> regarding
> > > Evolution being unable to filter messages and hanging after suspend.
> > > Strace makes it look like it's some sort of socket error, but I can't
> > > quite figure out how to give the requested backtrace when it doesn't
> > > crash and doesn't spit out *any* output at all after I type "continue".
> > >
> >
> > i'm having the same backtrace problem...
> >
> > matt
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