Use of apt-url in the documentation wiki
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2009/1/7 Richard Tattersall tatter_s...@msn.com: Perhaps this suggests a problem with how ubuntu is documented for new users? It is. Maybe we should go through the wiki doing a global replace of apt-get install with click apt:// :) (note for the humour impaired, this is not a serious suggestion, but you get the idea). This is a discussion which should continue on the ubuntu-doc list, but for the record: apt urls don't currently work on the documentation wiki. The question of whether to use them has been discussed by the documentation team, and a request has been made to the sysadmins back in September last year (ticket 3005 for those interested) to enable apt urls on the server that runs the wiki. As for the non-wiki part of the help website, we're hoping to introduce apt-url links in those documents during this release cycle. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: too complicated
Il giorno mer, 07/01/2009 alle 23.39 +0100, Remco ha scritto: Another way that is even easier is to choose to Create new logins in nested windows by right-clicking the User Switcher applet, choosing Preferences and ticking the appropriate box. That will open new logins in a new window in your existing login through xnest. I see no reason why that would be a pita. why isn't xnest installed by default? And shouldn't there be a message under the disabled checkbox saying that one needs to install xnest? Or even better, a button to install xnest from there? Vincenzo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 04:07:27PM -0800, Dean Loros wrote: I am active at ubuntuforums in the testing/development support area there has been a fair amount of talk in the following thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965879 As EXT4 has just been termed stable, is there a possibility that it can be included as optional ? A use request/bugreport is filed at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/197311 ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily builds. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: too complicated
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:09 +0100, Remco wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: It is. Maybe we should go through the wiki doing a global replace of apt-get install with click apt:// :) (note for the humour impaired, this is not a serious suggestion, but you get the idea). I may be humour impaired, but that sounds like a good idea! Why make it hard if there is an easier way? The command line is used way too much by the community trying to help the newbies. I think there should be a big change in this attitude. Wherever I come, I try to tell people of the graphical way to do it, when a CLI-way is presented. The CLI is for power users. It's usually faster (and certainly easier to type by the helping community), but it requires more pre-existing knowledge about the actions you're trying to complete. A GUI can be explored and learned as you go. Also the command line assumes people can type well ;-) -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: too complicated
Remco wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Nils Kassube kass...@gmx.net wrote: Yes, I know about that possibility. I do use that approach sometimes if there is only a GUI way. But I really don't want to do that every time I can help because IMHO it is a real PITA. If it would be a requirement to only give advice the GUI way, I would certainly cease to help. Another way that is even easier is to choose to Create new logins in nested windows by right-clicking the User Switcher applet, choosing Preferences and ticking the appropriate box. That will open new logins in a new window in your existing login through xnest. I see no reason why that would be a pita. Actually I'm not using the user switcher applet because I'm using KDE. There I have to switch between sessions with Ctrl-Alt-F7 / Ctrl-Alt-F8. It seems the user switcher applet needs gdm which I don't like. However, you mentioned xnest which looks quite promising - thanks for the hint. I will try to use that program in the future if I need a separate session. Nils -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development questions about Plymouth
Colin Watson wrote: ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily builds. I'm looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to ext4 for years. I could do an install from scratch, but I'm hoping that I can upgrade my existing ext3 to ext4 as you can going from ext2 to ext3. -- ,-O Aaron Toponce O } Ubuntu Member `-O http://www.ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Mimicking Ubuntu's build robots
Hello all, in an attempt to get some insight about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnustep-base/+bug/245981 I tried to build the packages myself. However, the results are totally different from what I see in the build logs attached to the bug. I can't reproduce the bug as the build works fine outside a chrooted environment. So my question is: how would I best mimick Ubuntu's build machinery? Probably a virtual machine, to allow building i386 on an AMD64 host, but which type of installation, what else? Thanks, Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Mimicking Ubuntu's build robots
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 01:26 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: Hello all, in an attempt to get some insight about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnustep-base/+bug/245981 I tried to build the packages myself. However, the results are totally different from what I see in the build logs attached to the bug. I can't reproduce the bug as the build works fine outside a chrooted environment. So my question is: how would I best mimick Ubuntu's build machinery? Probably a virtual machine, to allow building i386 on an AMD64 host, but which type of installation, what else? As it says in the upstream bug report this is due to it timing out trying to fetch a dtd from the network when building the documentation. This happens because Ubuntu's buildds have no network access. The reason it only happens on i386 is that the documentation is arch independent, and so is only built on i386 and installed in to an Arch: all package. There are local copies of the DTDs in the source package, the one it probably wants is ./Tools/gsdoc-1_0_3.dtd, but it is apparently searching for a file ending in .xml, and from what I can see only adds user, system and network locations to the search path, though the intent of -HeaderDirectory ../Tools may be to do this. Thanks, James -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
Intrepid+1 approaches-- is it too late to reconsider Empathy for inclusion? I just tried the newest version of Empathy and things look a lot better! File transfers now work and it picks up my webcam/mic! On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Laurent Bigonville wrote on 08/08/08 21:12: ... Empathy[1] will be part of the upcoming GNOME 2.24 desktop. The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for intrepid as default IM client. If you are running intrepid, please give empathy a test and report bugs to launchpad[2]. ... To help in this decision, I have evaluated the usability of Empathy and Pidgin, and written up my findings. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability In summary, I suggest that Ubuntu continue using Pidgin by default for Intrepid, and that we reconsider Empathy for Intrepid+1. Empathy currently does a couple of big things Pidgin does not (audio and video chat), and handles one big feature much better than Pidgin (chat logging). But I found most features were more obvious in Pidgin, especially account setup, which is important for anyone who will start using IM in Intrepid. (And people who were already using either Empathy or Pidgin in a previous version of Ubuntu will continue using the same program in Intrepid anyway, regardless of our decision.) I found dozens of small learnability and efficiency problems in both programs, and I have not yet had time to report them all as bugs. If anyone would like to help out with this, especially in finding bugs that have already been reported, I'd greatly appreciate it. (Wherever the wiki page says (), it needs a link to a bug report.) Cheers - -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIrJIj6PUxNfU6ecoRAgHOAKCMNPqz15lfIkvKSlOhvkhpDdcy3ACgueHC DX06VJtu0JXEZHeibFY4gA8= =9uzC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desk...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
